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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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13b twin turbo in a 88fc?

Will a 13b twin turbo set up out of a fd swap into the 88fc. The setup comes with ecu and. Stuff??
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Did you check the FAQ?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Twin turbo doesn't mean ****. You're much better off with a single turbo set-up. The 13B-REW isn't a very common swap for the FC. A better swap than the FD's 13B-REW, would be the Cosmo's 13B-RE. (This is a much more expensive and complicated swap.) A far easier and cost-effective route to go, would be a 13B TII swap.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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To the op, theres a section on how to use the forums. This subject has been covered thousands of times and isn't worth making a thread.about.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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thankyou

thankyou for ur positive input
sorry again i am new to the world of fourms
and u said the Cosmo's 13B-RE
single turbo set up would be better. now atm i am na and i wanna do a swap i have been looking for a ur gonna need this thread and a place to start lookin up prices i found a jdm site that has motors from japan that are under 50k miles, what do u think about places like that. cuz i think i need a motor, turbo, intercooler, and comp and injectors and pump...and thats where i am lost.



thankyou for ur time
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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How much power are you looking to make? How much do you have to spend? What is the primary use of the car?

If you want to know about 13B-REW swaps (the twin turbo 13B from the FD) then just head up to the FAQ, hit CTRL-F and type in "13B-REW". There are quite a few links. It's not a direct bolt in by any means.

The 13B-RE from the Cosmo is a slightly easier swap as it happens to use the same crank trigger as the 2nd gen 13B. So the stock TII ECU, with some appropriate wiring modifications, will run it...mostly.

However the best route for either of these swaps is a full standalone, which brings us back to the three questions I asked above.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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honestly i just wanna turbo swap i am not looking to make 800whp or anything crazy
i am gonna have around 2k to start the swap by the time i am ready i am just trying to research so i know what goal i have to set for savings. i want to use my car for daily driver / my toy.
i do have a second car so if i wanna upgrade later then its do big deal.

but for right now i wanna plane jane turbo motor, inless there is a slight upgrade for similar price ranges. and u said go to faq on the top and use find and type in what motor i wanna swap in. is there anywhere i can find all my possiable choices?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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The REW has motor mounts on the rear iron and the BT has the mounts on the sides - personally I think this is the worst part of the swap.

You should be able to make about the same power with the BT as the REW and it bolts in! For instance, internally the S5 BT and the S6 REW are nearly identical. The rotors are even the same weight and compression ratio.
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If ur looking for a good rotary importer, look up japan2la on these forums. But get informed on what all is needed for ur swap goals b4 u start checking out motors.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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The REW has motor mounts on the rear iron and the BT has the mounts on the sides - personally I think this is the worst part of the swap.

You should be able to make about the same power with the BT as the REW and it bolts in! For instance, internally the S5 BT and the S6 REW are nearly identical. The rotors are even the same weight and compression ratio.
The rotors are the only thing identical between the 13bt and rew.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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i have boon looking around to inform my self what i needed and i am having trouble i am not good nav threw these sites.
and u said the BT bolts right in...what do i wanna look up for the BT?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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The rotors are the only thing identical between the 13bt and rew.
the larger port volume isn't really enough of a benefit to deal with the rest of what is related to in the swap. most people see the power differences in the motors stock for stock and think it is a good swap alternative. the only truth is that the twins make up for more airflow than the stock FC single turbo provides, which is where the power differences come in.

big single on an FC or big single on an FD, they both are capable of close to the same figures, the FD just has a slightly higher cieling with better flowing intake system.

you simply cannot toss in a stock REW without extensive rewiring and the custom mounts which seem cheesy to me.

by the time most people are done and realize the twins are garbage and single turbo their series 6, they could have made life easier and stuck with the FC 13BT and done the same thing without all the runaround, pain and thin wallet.

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Just get a full turbo engine for your series. All the things needed to run it. Straight bolt in.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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If ur looking for a good rotary importer, look up japan2la on these forums. But get informed on what all is needed for ur swap goals b4 u start checking out motors.
+1 Japan2LA - Very reputable importer. Get an engine from him.


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Just get a full turbo engine for your series. All the things needed to run it. Straight bolt in.
You can make good power, for a good price.


All I can say is, "Read up!" - There's TONS of great information here.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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i agree with Karack on this one.
for what you said your power goals are and what you want to use the car for your best bet is to go with an s4 TII swap. it will bolt in and minimizes your rewiring and other headaches and probably cheaper this way also
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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so i am guessing the FC 13BT and the s4 TII motor are the same?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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I'm not one to be douchy, but I'd highly suggest reading the FAQ before posting again. Someone is going to end up tearing you apart.

Read this: http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2n...to_turbo2.html
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by autoshmo
so i am guessing the FC 13BT and the s4 TII motor are the same?
13BT refers to the S4 TII engine and S5 TII engine.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:05 AM
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If you choose the 3rd gen engine you might want to check these out.

http://motivefab.com/products-page/m...ne-swap-mounts
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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if you're not sure as to what to do, you might wanna consider just getting a TurboII
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by autoshmo
so i am guessing the FC 13BT and the s4 TII motor are the same?
13B-T is the generic term we use to refer to a 2nd gen TII engine. That can be mean S4 or S5. The easiest swap you can make for your $2000 is to get the matching 13B-T for your series of car, the ECU, AFM, boost sensor, fuel pump, transmission + drivetrain and then bolt it all in. As posted earlier in this thread, there are full swap writeups in the FAQ as this is done all the time.

rxmiles;10839505]If you choose the 3rd gen engine you might want to check these out.
http://motivefab.com/products-page/m...ne-swap-mounts
...as an example of how not to mount an engine.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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However if you get your swap through Japan2La don't be in a hurry, I had to wait almost 2 months, I think, before It finally showed up. I was trying to finish the car before boot camp. luckly I did.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
I'm not one to be douchy, but I'd highly suggest reading the FAQ before posting again. Someone is going to end up tearing you apart.
someone did but their post disappeared.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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sorry

thankyou so much

Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
I'm not one to be douchy, but I'd highly suggest reading the FAQ before posting again. Someone is going to end up tearing you apart.

Read this: http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2n...to_turbo2.html

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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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No problem haha
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