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n4ji 04-06-04 07:15 PM

10AE headlight washers
 
DAMNATION!!! I finally found a thing wrong with the 'mint condition 10AE'....

As I was screwing around with it tonight, playing with all the toys it came with, I tried the headlight washers/sprayer and nothing.. No sound of a motor trying to pump and spray the water, no nothing! :(

Anyways, checked the fluid level, completely full... Is there a fuse for the washers? Or do you think the motor is shot? Any suggestions?

Icemark 04-06-04 07:17 PM

filter in the headlight washer tank is probably dirty or clogged.

That is the tank next to the leading coils, you know.

Psygnosis7 04-06-04 07:43 PM

I've wondered, where'd they put the switch for the headlight washers?

Icemark 04-06-04 08:14 PM

push the headlamp up switch in

n4ji 04-06-04 08:41 PM


Originally posted by Psygnosis7
I've wondered, where'd they put the switch for the headlight washers?
Yeah, you know on the left side of the dash, the knob that can make you turn your headlights up and down without turning them on? On AEs you push that in.

n4ji 04-06-04 08:43 PM


Originally posted by Icemark
filter in the headlight washer tank is probably dirty or clogged.

That is the tank next to the leading coils, you know.

Yeah, tank under the driver's side headlamp. I assume the filter as at the bottom of the tank near the pump, correct?

Thanks,
Michael

Scott 89t2 04-06-04 08:48 PM

mine works but the only times were by mistake.

pretty useless thing :)

Psygnosis7 04-06-04 09:07 PM


Originally posted by Scott 89t2
mine works but the only times were by mistake.

pretty useless thing :)

turn the nozzles around and spray people who walk by your car :p:

n4ji 04-06-04 09:08 PM


Originally posted by Psygnosis7
turn the nozzles around and spray people who walk by your car :P
That is a DAMN good idea!!! ;)

cafcwest 04-06-04 10:04 PM

If you need headlight squirter parts, let me know as I have a parts AE.

-Jayson

82_annrx7 04-07-04 01:03 AM


Originally posted by cafcwest
If you need headlight squirter parts, let me know as I have a parts AE.

-Jayson

What kind of parts do you have? I need a few things for my AE.

scathcart 04-07-04 01:16 AM


Originally posted by Psygnosis7
turn the nozzles around and spray people who walk by your car :p:
The Cdn TII's and GXL's had the headlight sprayers, not just the 10AE's. Only time I have ever used them is to flip up the headlights and then ask someone to bend down to look if the lights are on.

NZConvertible 04-07-04 01:40 AM

Pop-up lights don't get nearly as dirty as fixed ones, so I don't know why Mazda bothered.

I'd love to have the reservior though. It'd be perfect for an IC sprayer. ;)

RoninAutoBoX 04-07-04 02:37 AM

Pop up headlights are bug catchers. I wish I would have had those things on those long drives at night on alligator alley. There straight forward square design would get hit by anything.

cafcwest 04-07-04 04:07 AM


Originally posted by 82_annrx7
What kind of parts do you have? I need a few things for my AE.
For AE specific parts:

bronze glass
Tails
Wing
headlight squirters and related equipment
AE embossed steering wheel

in a month or two, im going to be selling the shell. no interior or anything. no drivetrain. just the body )good shape but needs paint) with suspension.

If interested in something listed here, PM me. If I have not listed it, then I do not have it or am not selling it.

NZConvertible 04-07-04 05:49 AM


Originally posted by RoninAutoBoX
Pop up headlights are bug catchers.
No more than fixed headlights, or any other part of the car for that matter.

introVert 04-07-04 08:24 AM

You have never been to Florida during love bug season, my friend.

n4ji 04-07-04 10:49 PM


Originally posted by introVert
You have never been to Florida during love bug season, my friend.
Or Kansas for that matter.... You would believe some of the crap my lights killed when I drove my car back from the Sooner State....

jimmyv13 04-08-04 12:15 AM

Check to see if the motor is plugged in.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 04-08-04 08:09 AM

Kansas isn't the sooner state.

Nick86 04-08-04 08:26 AM

I used my headlight washers a grand total of 5 times in 6 years. Once to wash of the remains of a bird that I hit with the headlight up - and the other 4 to soak people walking by.:D

The headlight washer resevoir is about twice the size of the windshield washer resevoir (go figure). So I ripped the windshield washer resevoir out and rewired/replumbed the system so that when I press the windshield washer button, it takes the fluid from the Headlight washer resevoir. I then used all that empty space on the passenger side for my CAI.

BTW - put some power directly to the motor and see what happens. Because all this is controled by the headlight switch - you might find that it is the switch that is the problem.

n4ji 04-08-04 10:43 PM

Alright, where is the motor in relations to the resevoir? And where would it plug into?

OneLastTryLTJ 04-08-04 11:42 PM

I turned out the nozzles on my 10AE and I can now spray people with their windows down when they get next to me on the road. It's pretty funny cause they have no idea where it came from.
If you want, you could even take out the resevoir and the motor to the headlight washer cause you really don't need it and it weighs like 15-20 pounds. The whole assembly is HUGE.

NZConvertible 04-09-04 01:51 AM

It would only weigh that much if you filled it up...

n4ji 04-10-04 04:18 PM

Alright, tried to find the motor... fuse, you name it and I came up with nothing. Can anybody tell me where the headlight sprayer pump/motor is located and/or the fuse for it? Thanks.

n4ji 04-10-04 06:30 PM

More investigating... There is a hose that comes out of the top of the washer fluid tank... goes up to the filling resevoir (near it, not attached) and doesn't attach to anything, is this the hose that the pump draws the fluid up from? Any AE owners out there able to help me?

There is a little bit of fluid in the hose, but it doesn't go up to the top.

NZConvertible 04-10-04 06:46 PM

So you know where the filler neck is. That should be a really big clue to the reservoir's location.

Ah hell, I'll give you another clue. Jack up the front, remove the left wheel and inner liner and behold you headlight washer reservoir complete with pump.

n4ji 04-10-04 07:59 PM


Originally posted by NZConvertible
So you know where the filler neck is. That should be a really big clue to the reservoir's location.

Ah hell, I'll give you another clue. Jack up the front, remove the left wheel and inner liner and behold you headlight washer reservoir complete with pump.

Thanks for treating me like a moron, <edited for flaming>. I know where the resevoir is, I wanted to know where the fuse for the pump was.

NZConvertible 04-10-04 09:43 PM

Hey man, <edited for flaming> you. I gave you exactly the answer you asked for, in an effort to help you. (You asked, "Can anybody tell me where the headlight sprayer pump/motor is located" in case you forgot.) I wasn't rude, I didn't treat you like a moron, and I didn't tell you to go read the damn FSM like I should've. Where else do you think the pump would be besides at the reservoir? Where the hell do you think the fuse is? It's in the same place as all the others!

If people around here used their brains a little more often instead of just posting question after question this place would be a lot less frustrating... :mad:

n4ji 04-10-04 11:29 PM

Yeah yeah yeah... to bad the FSM doesn't cover the headlight washers since they didn't apply to that many 88 models. (I spent the whole day looking through mine, so that explains that)

And yes, I asked where the PUMP for the resevoir was, and you told me where the resevoir was. This equals no help. I did not know where the motor was in location to the resevoir, I got under my AE and took off two plastic panels, but only to find the white knob for the headlight motor.

And for the fuse... I checked the FAQ and the fuse for the washer pump is not listed (check for yourself) Am I missing it or something?


If people around here used their brains a little more often instead of just posting question after question this place would be a lot less frustrating...
Check the arrogance while you're at it.

I've often used your advice, as I've seen you post a lot of info so I imagine you know more about what you're doing than I am. I think you should realize that and be more patient with novices. I'm sure you weren't born with infinite knowledge of the RX-7, it took you a little time.

NZConvertible 04-11-04 02:39 AM


Originally posted by NZConvertible
Hey man, <edited for flaming> you.
Well that's a first. Sorry Mark. ;)


Originally posted by n4ji
...to bad the FSM doesn't cover the headlight washers since they didn't apply to that many 88 models.
You are correct that there is no specific section on the headlight washers, but they are covered in the Wiring Diagrams chapter. Page 50-50 shows you what fuse they're fed from, page 50-51 shows you what the pump's plug looks like and page 50-52 shows you where the pump's plug (and hence the pump) is located. Always check the wiring diagrams for info on the car's electrical items.

And yes, I asked where the PUMP for the resevoir was, and you told me where the resevoir was. This equals no help. I did not know where the motor was in location to the resevoir, I got under my AE and took off two plastic panels, but only to find the white knob for the headlight motor.
No help? I said "remove the left wheel and inner liner and behold your headlight washer reservoir complete with pump". Did you miss that? If you found the headlight motor you're looking in the wrong place. You need to look behind the inner wheelarch liner. Like I said earlier, the filler neck is a clue to the reservior's location. It's directly above it.

Check the arrogance while you're at it.
I'm sorry if you think I'm being arrogant, but I call it realistic.

I've often used your advice, as I've seen you post a lot of info so I imagine you know more about what you're doing than I am. I think you should realize that and be more patient with novices.
I thought my initial post was being patient. I told you exactly what to do to find the reservoir and pump, with a mild tease thrown in for fun, and you threw shit in my face for it. Why should I be patient with anyone who does that?

n4ji 04-11-04 03:12 PM


Originally posted by NZConvertible

I'm sorry if you think I'm being arrogant, but I call it realistic.
I thought my initial post was being patient. I told you exactly what to do to find the reservoir and pump, with a mild tease thrown in for fun, and you threw shit in my face for it. Why should I be patient with anyone who does that?

I can understand that. It's just kinda hard to pick up on sarcasm, jokes, etc while reading on a forum, mainly because they are tons of people who you've never come in contact with and don't know when they're joking or being serious. I apologize, can't we all just get along? :p:

NZConvertible 04-11-04 06:16 PM

No worries. ;)

So did you find the pump?

n4ji 04-11-04 09:38 PM

I didn't have time to today, my family loves Easter and today was a feast that I have yet to recover from. I'll try to look for it tomorrow because I'm going to San Diego Wednesday (picking up RarestRX's S5 meshies, mwhahahaha)

I'll let you know when I try it again. Thanks for all the help. :)

STR8BALLIN - R 04-11-04 11:13 PM

ive got the headlight washers on my 88 Vert
 
didnt even know i had em till i was standing infront of my car one day checking a lamp and my buddy was playing behind the wheel and squirted the hell outta me. it actually scared me, i jumped back!

n4ji 04-20-04 06:41 PM

Alright, I got the "t" piece of plastic that has lines running from the motor to the lines that go out to the headlights... try to blow threw it = nothing. Is this why they don't work?

n4ji 04-20-04 08:13 PM

Anybody?

n4ji 04-20-04 08:16 PM

Anybody?

n4ji 04-20-04 08:16 PM

Anybody?

NZConvertible 04-20-04 08:16 PM

If the lines are blocked then water won't flow from the nozzles, but that won't affect the pump. The pump will still operate normally (i.e. you'll hear the motor spinning).

With the headlights up, can you hear the motor when you press the button? If not, check for 12V at the plug when you press the button. If there's voltage, the pump's shot. If there's no voltage it's probably a switch problem.

If the pump is running okay, you'll need to clear the blockage, which will most likely be in the nozzles.

n4ji 04-20-04 08:18 PM

Anybody?

n4ji 04-20-04 08:28 PM

Whenever I push in the switch on my dash, I can tell the pump is getting power because my lights dim a little (stupid alternator) I broke the plug loose, but complications will result in me seeing if it works tomorrow ;)

Electrikhead 04-20-04 09:25 PM

Thank god for this post, I have the same problem!

STR8BALLIN - R 04-20-04 10:09 PM

any other vert owners have these???
 
what models came with the washers?

n4ji 04-21-04 05:07 PM

Rats... problem not solved. I think it's the motor, because I don't hear the loud noise from it like I do when I push my windshield washers.... Will investigate more as the week goes on and I get more time from school.

BLAST!!!

NZConvertible 04-21-04 05:31 PM

It may not be the motor. Test it by putting 12V and ground directly to its terminals. If it works you need to check the switch and harness. If it doesn't work, then relace it.

Compare the headlight washer pump with the windscreen washer pump. It's highly likely they'll be the same, so you can get a replacement pretty easily from a wrecker or the for sale section.

n4ji 04-25-04 03:53 PM

FIXED!!! I took out the motor today for the pump and BLEH! All this black gook which smelled gawd awful spewed out of the motor casing. Anyway, I cleaned the magnets on the casing and the wired part and VIOLA! She spins again! Thanks for all the help.

Michael

lacycw 04-25-04 11:11 PM

Congrats on getting them workin Michael.

When are you going to give me your FTPs? Once you get rid of those, your car will be complete.

- Coop

n4ji 04-25-04 11:23 PM


Originally posted by lacycw
Congrats on getting them workin Michael.

When are you going to give me your FTPs? Once you get rid of those, your car will be complete.

- Coop

The deal is still $400 for the FTPs, or trade me for your S5 tranny.

Isn't that my dog in your avatar?

Icemark 04-26-04 12:14 AM

Re: any other vert owners have these???
 

Originally posted by STR8BALLIN - R
what models came with the washers?
ONly the 10th AE in the USA had them. Might be different in other countries.


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