What do you hate about the rx7?
 

as far as the kind of comments other car owners, public etc says about em.

I hate that perfectly good cars with neglected owners who ruin the motors, eventually people expect the cars to be cheap.. Non-running rx7s knock off a few grand on what the car could be listed for. Like you always see verts selling for like $700 because of bad motors, and while the rest of the car looks great.. sad to see that. A good condition TII could be selling for like 4k, but if its motor was blown, people wouldnt want to pay 1k for it.

The biggest thing is definetly what you mentioned. Our book value is low. Especially a non running engine.

I would say a solid price for our cars would be:

Mint condition t2: $8k us/cnd
Mint condition n/a: $6k us/cnd
Non running engine, depending on problem: $1k-$3k

The prices go down from there.

Currently in canada, we get about $6k for a t2 and about $4k for an n/a. A little bit better then the states. Then again, your dollar is also worth a hell of alot more right now.

motors cost a lot to do right on these... it's not like there are a ton of these motors sitting in a junk yard ready to run.

The think i dislike the most is how low the roof is.

^^^^^ I actually like the low roof line. Its funny watching my friends hit their heads on the roof, and my girlfriend is 5-2 anyway so it doesnt matter. It does suck that non running 7s go for 1k, but the trade off is that parts are cheaper. It does make sense though considering most people dont work on their car and it would cost 3 grand or so to pay somebody to get it up and running. It takes a special person to own a reliable fc.

I guess the only thing i hate (actually mildly dislike, but am still content with)is the shitass gas mileage and leaky injectors. Thats my fault for not putting my other tbi on and not swapping to my other 550s. It is just too cold now to even move. Ahhh yes........ i hate my se's stock suspension.

john ny

I hate that they're getting old and harder to find in good condition. I also hate when people have the 'Why would you put any money into such an old car' attitude.

The fact that none of the ones I own run very well... :sad:

haha forgot about that, just the other night, i gave me friend a ride *a big boy*, and he didnt look too comfortable, hit his head going into the car, and just looked cramped.

I hate my gas mileage also thats the only thing i dislike and my car only makes 103whp you would think getting 13mpg i would make i lil better power but my motor does have 170k original miles on it lol But anyway fuel economy sucks :icon_tdow

i hate burgundy and blue,(not as bad) interior even though i didn't mind burgundy interior when i 1st got my rx7, but after my black s5 interior swap and seeing burgundy interior on other rx7s, its really pretty ugly

i hate the factory steering angle compared to a s13 T_T

I hate that FC's are looked down upon by Fd and Fb/SA owners.

also that stock wiring is shitty, especially if the car is not well maintained..

another thing could be is that fact that most FCs(i bought) or friends,etc never have A/C.....

fds are a totally different ballpark, people are willing to spend money on those and are open minded towards modifications like coilovers, kits, wheels etc. fc people are cheap, complain about the price of wheels and parts etc.. Whenever i go into the fd section of this form, its hard not to drool... lol

i hate how all these young kids are ricing out their cars and trying to be mad tyte doriftors. go buy a honda or 240 if you wanna do that crap :nono:

yea true that, i get the same way!:lol:

x100000000!

...like most cars with a blown motor...its just a huge paper weight, pulling/install and aquiring a motor often costs more than the car is worth?! (unless one does his/hers own labour?

You think the value is low? Sold my 1990 GTU / TII conversion for 4900. The Audi I bought is a 99.5 (facelift car makes it more valuable still) A4 and I payed 4600 for it. Audi's have a LOW book value. RX-7's are fairly healthy value for the age.

Spot on... it is really annoying too because most FC's I see I would consider
"half-assed" with many corners cut... then broken and the owner complains about the reliability of a rotary, or how their $500 coilovers suck. I actually like that I can find GOOD parts for my FC at reasonable prices and there is a wide variety of proven parts on the market to choose from. My only complaint about my FC is the electrical issues, wipers, 3800 hes, ect. Other then that I love it.

Yeah good call about the fd. It does kinda suck how a clean 91 turbo goes for 4-6 grand and the next years clean fd goes for 14-16 grand. Fds are bad ass though. Look at me hatin a little, i love my fc. I guess its the same thing with the supra though, 91 7mgte vs mkiv 2jzgte one. Also with the 300zx too, but not as bad.

john ny

A few things I hate about the FC off the top of my head:

1) Gas mileage
2) Power sunroof (I'd prefer manual)
3) Weak door handles

The fact that has a rotary engine? lol jk

*i dont like gas mileage

*the fact that they are not Reliable unless if you do some work to it.
(other cars are just reliable and a tank with out having to do anything to them)

*The fact that they Dont have rear seats, well some do but theres literly 1 1/2 inches of leg space.

and

*Their value is crap ( and engine parts are pricey).


-Franco

i dont like when ppl buy these cars and no nothing about it.

^+1, i dont think the 7s do bad on gas.. my did good..

i Do however hate that the Interior is SOOOOOO FUCking FRAGILE!!!!!!!!

things always breaking, like the vents and center surround peice. lol

As long as they're willing to learn and make an honest attempt to learn (and search, god damn it!!) I don't mind, but when people don't know anything about it and come on here and ask every tiny question they can think of and still end up breaking stuff, that is annoying. Honestly, an RX7 is not a car you just decide to buy out of nowhere. You need to know what it's all about and what you're getting into, I think anyone buying an RX7 should research common problems and fixes before buying one. Jeez, I lurked on RX7club for almost 2 years before I bought my FC.

They really are, especially TII or anything S5. My insurance agent once tried to convince me to drop full coverage on the T2. He said that it couldn't be worth much because of it's age. I had him look up KBB and NADA right in front of me. His exactly words after looking it up. "Nevermind"

i hate all the squeaks and rattles from the interior. i wish the car felt more solid or substantial.

It spends more time being worked on than driven....

I hate that too, every pothole and bump makes the interior sound like its about to fall off.

i love everything about my 7. Even if shes being a bitch i still love her. ^_^

i got my 90 gtu shell for 250 from a friend of a friend and im getting a blown engine with a good tranny for 50 bucks


so i cant complain that it has cost me too much im still under 1 k :P

i hate most of the electrical system if not all of it.

id have to say i only hate all the things that come with old age and improper maintenance from previous owners (bad sunroof, fragile interior, poorly maintained engine creaky interior and exhaust leaks). other than that the bad gas mileage.

still...i love my seven even after all that terrible shit haha

Yes, everyone of those is true.

But one thing I hate/dislike is when someone tells me I have a nice probe... (>_<) It hurts. :'( I don't my fc compared to a probe...

I don't like the automatic seat belts either, they've broken on me plenty of times...

Ohh, another this I dislike is no gaskets at any auto part stores around me, only the dealership has them. $48 for n/a intake manifold gaskets and guess what... $6 for the Tii intake manifold gasket.. lol ironic.. damn n/a's!!

i dislike the rear suspension design, the rear subframe , the dtss etc.. you have to lower the subframe to remove teh diff etc.. Wish they would have went with a IRS setup instead.

^^^^its almost worth swapping in a t2 engine just for the savings on gaskets.

john ny

I hate how theres a fad to rice out fc's now a days, and those people claim their car isn't rice.

95% of fc body kits are cheap looking, and plain ole rice

I think that if installed correctly body kits (aside from the demon one) dont look like rice. If there is more gaps than british teeth than i kind of agree........ that some of the installations are rice. Not the kits themselves.

john ny

Your fc looks good for example but most fc's look crap.

I can name tons of members that have shitty looking fc's, I'd take a shit on their hood and call it a day but I'm not going to name who nor post pics.

those with good looking fc's with bodykits know who they are, and those who don't, they need to come outta the closet :lol:

i hate it when you replace the old stereo with a new one your antenna stops working and i also hate how easy all the interior parts break like the vents

I have to agree with this one. And mine isnt running at the moment but i still love her :)

I hate how many of the so-called problems with the FC are simply caused by misinformation, misinformed owners, or the fact that the newest FC is 16 years old.

Besides the cold solder joints in the CPU, logicon and the annoying failure of the headlight and wiper switches, the wiring is quite good. The fact that the car is 16+ years old has more to do with the "shitty" wiring then Mazda. Also I'd like to point out that many of the electrical parts that fail are NOT made by Mazda.

Damn skippy. I wish drifting would just die and that every 15 year old who buys an FC would stop wanting to imitate some old Anime cartoon (that I've never even seen) by "drifting" their car into a wall. And why is that nearly ever "drifter" has an FC which looks like absolute garbage? Oh yeah, the car is their "drift" car because they aren't willing to admit they bought a piece of junk because it was cheap.

It's 16+ years old. A new FC interior is wonderful and much higher quality then the SA/FB/FD interior.

Again, car is 16+ years old...

16+ year old car...

Uh, the FC does have IRS.

16+ year old car on the interior comment.

The power antenna is ground triggered, not + triggered like most. Add a relay.

i need some f'n real cupholders

i hate that giant flywheel nut torqued to like 325 ft/lbs. easy for a shop, horror for shadetree mechanics

i also hate the ridiculous location mazda selected for the clutch slave cylinder. only small asian children with small asian children hands can get to it easily.

besides that, the interior is ugly.

he means multilink.

240sx rear suspension is stupid easy to repair / modify / align compared to the FC.

I hate the fact that my clock turns on and makes me smile because it is actually working, then I hit a bump and it turns off :(
My interior is rather fragile. I pushed in my cigarette lighter and smoke started coming out of the dash, so I tried to get the center surround off in a hurry and broke it off, needless to say I unplugged the lighter and have been avoiding touching the plastic in my interior.

Other than that I love my car to death.

i hate that im young and the 7 is old. i really wish i was around for when the 2nd gen was new.

i hate that my interior rattles, but i guess thats what i guess for having coilovers.

i also hate that im sometimes seen as a dumb kid that bought a 7 to drift...im not. im more a fan of autox really. i cant stand street racing either.

Big breaker bar.

Ratcheting box wrenches.


Yeah, but it's also nowhere near as good.

i'm aware of the workarounds... lol. my complaint is the need for them in the first place.

breaker bar doesn't work so well with the car on jackstands working on the curb. doesn't give you much room to turn even if you get the tip of the bar out past the side of the car. if you can get it up high or on a lift, then its no problem. in contrast, flywheel on other FR cars is very easy to do... 5 or 6 bolts at 80 ft/lbs a piece. dont even need a breaker bar. but i guess the massive nut is necessitated b/c of the bolt on counterweight?

likewise slave cylinder is very easily placed on the side or more towards the bottom of the transmission. not sure why mazda put it up top. protecting it? maybe a more direct clutch feel?

FOR THE WIN

I hate the rust goblins that attack my baby's beautiful black hatch :wallbash:

I hate the fact that my car is 21 years old. I'm about halfway at replacing everything on the car, still got 50% left to go. It's gonna be a long journey.