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WingsofWar 04-14-09 11:21 PM

My widebody FC
 
Gah! Finally done! i just wanted to share with you guys my latest work, hope you like it!

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-Josh

Alex Rodriguez 04-14-09 11:25 PM

I though you went and built it. Any plans of starting the kit?

WingsofWar 04-14-09 11:31 PM

Actually yeah, main reason why i did this render because i needed an idea of how an extremely wide panels would look on the FC. I am trying to get together some people at the local community college that need a project that are in welding, fiberglassing, metal programs. Just to see who is interested. If not, id just do it myself, but im currently in school and looking for a job so i cant spend to much time on fabbing up the kit.

I am actually not that serious about it at this point until i can get some other projects done first. OR find a job and save up some cash for materials.

MaczPayne 04-14-09 11:38 PM

Got a rear shot? :)

I must say, it looks good.

WingsofWar 04-14-09 11:40 PM

workin on the rear shot now, might be a few days till its done tho

Hypertek 04-15-09 12:16 AM

sweet.. make me wanna battle you graphics style hahaha..
I just sent out one of my pics to be done as a poster, you should consider that too.

RO7ARY 04-15-09 05:03 AM

Nice one mate looks great!

RotorBalls 04-15-09 08:12 AM

Damn that looks awesome

Chaotic_FC 04-15-09 10:38 AM

That thing is awesome.

87 t-66 04-15-09 11:14 AM

nice.

RX-Heven 04-15-09 11:27 AM

Looks great!
My only suggestion is to soften the edges from the top of the fender to its side. I'm not a big fan of the sharp edges on many of the kits as they don't flow well with the rest of the cars lines. The RE front bumper you rendered has the nice rounded transition I'm talking about...just continue that.

WingsofWar 04-15-09 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by RX-Heven (Post 9130075)
Looks great!
My only suggestion is to soften the edges from the top of the fender to its side. I'm not a big fan of the sharp edges on many of the kits as they don't flow well with the rest of the cars lines. The RE front bumper you rendered has the nice rounded transition I'm talking about...just continue that.

Your absolutely right about softer edges, on many kits it takes away from the bodylines. My only argument with this is that GTC bodies typically have sharp edges to divert airflow to other chambers in the body to promote aerodynamics. The design i made was directly referenced to JGTC GT Touring, and Formula cars and obviously they don't have much soft edge fender lining. The look of the car isn't that big of a deal for me, its how well i can modify the flow of air around the car is where i was going with this design. Thanks for your input tho, If i were to market a kit it would have softer edges.

InsomniacFC 04-15-09 03:11 PM

Looks great and it's my new wallpaper!

airquin23 04-15-09 03:34 PM

Very nice!

CWestFD3S 04-15-09 06:16 PM

Wow...that looks amazing...I really like how you did the door vent area...

Havoc 04-15-09 07:29 PM

I like it, but kill the dipped ends on the rear wing.

Also with a kit that wide your going to need 355's or something stupid to full the rears.

Ive got 285's under my standard 30mm Widebody, yours is going to be 150mm+

Hypertek 04-15-09 10:48 PM

This is like a Super GT concept if they still ran the FC in teh 300 class. I can see resemblance to the FD + NSX cars in this hahah

Are you using a graphics tablet or just mouse? i been wanting to try out a tablet.

WingsofWar 04-16-09 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Hypertek (Post 9132093)
This is like a Super GT concept if they still ran the FC in teh 300 class. I can see resemblance to the FD + NSX cars in this hahah

Are you using a graphics tablet or just mouse? i been wanting to try out a tablet.

Hahaha i knew you would spot the NSX in there somewhere! Id think the FD in the picture would also be more obvious. Dude you need to use a tablet, its the only way to go, i am using a Wacom Intuos 3, and photoshop CS4.



Originally Posted by Havoc (Post 9131471)
I like it, but kill the dipped ends on the rear wing.

Also with a kit that wide your going to need 355's or something stupid to full the rears.

Ive got 285's under my standard 30mm Widebody, yours is going to be 150mm+


Yeah picking out the wing was hard, if it was clearly for style i would have just gone with a short surface generator or no wing at all. The dippped side generators on the wing was a difficult choice for me, typically i hate that design but actually does have a function vs short surface generators. My inspiration for the dip was taken from DTM class Mercedes and a highwing Mclaren F1. I just figured the FC might benefit from it more without really any sort of testing.

Your 30mm wide panels is child's play compared to how much wider these GTC class cars panels are. Here are a few references and examples i used.

http://www.marcoapicella.com/2004/im...picella-08.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...mg437816at.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/100_4882.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/100_4881.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...0165509211.jpg

Chaotic_FC 04-16-09 01:49 PM

omg that NSX is absolutely beautiful.

NoPistons! 04-16-09 02:45 PM

This thread wins.

Holy shit.

I love that car, especially the wing.

Good taste, style, function, presentation!

That's just awesome. GOOD JOB!

WingsofWar 04-16-09 03:15 PM

QUESTION!!!!

i am in the process of mocking up the rear section shot, and i need to know. should i keep the S4/S5 tail lights? or come up with a completely new light design? If i do go with new lights, would you rather see bars or circles?

If you have have ideas please feel free to share along with references if you can provide.

Dltreezan 04-16-09 03:21 PM

s5 for sure

CWestFD3S 04-16-09 03:36 PM

With all the custom work and the usage of circles for the side indicator and turn signals...maybe some circular LED's like Revolution's time attack FD would look good...

stevensimon 04-16-09 04:12 PM

no way. keep the tails true to the roots. s4 ftmfw

dawicka2 04-16-09 04:29 PM

I think you should completely redo the tails. Here you have this monster widebody kit all modern and concepty.......to throw s4 or5 tails in might be out of place.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferra...spagenameZWDVW

tails should be on some scuderia 430 shit. (yeah i get my pictures from ebay...just like everything else)

But......... maybe if you did 3 versions of the ass end s4,s5 and moddedcrazy......then conducted a poll.

I dont know anything about designing graphics and 3 versions might be a rediculous amount of work...............what ever you choose, i am sure it will be tasteful like the rest of your design.

john ny

SouthSideSlider 04-16-09 06:11 PM

maybe you could get yiour hands on one of those old Super-wide RE-amimya kits for the rear and modify it use S5 tails and just have to make the front quarters from scratch

texFCturboII 04-16-09 06:24 PM

And I just jizzed in my pants.

Chaotic_FC 04-16-09 06:29 PM

I think that the s5 tails would be awesome, but it would have to have a surrounding area that allows them to fit.

as an example:

I like how the tail lights are sunken in, allowing for you to give a more fitting shape to the rear.

http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/997GT3231.jpg

WingsofWar 04-16-09 07:24 PM

leaning towards redesigning S4 style. In stock form IMO S5 tails look best, i have a set myself. But the S4 bar type might prove to have better functionality with the rest of the car. I am not to sure yet, but i am going to have to draw up some examples for you guys to choose from within the next few days and well see if the design proves to be decent.

Also while im at it i might as well design an interior specifically for the FC. Might open doors to producing aftermarket dashes.

After iv gotten all my shots, i am transforming the concept into 3D using either Maya or Vray, depending on how i feel. Ill try to prove complete 360 view of the car which will be viewable through youtube. Ill try to import the design into cad for accurate measurements

Once the demo is finalized and iv made all my revisions, its on to the annoying task of finding several individuals who are in the business of creating such a design. That is where i would need rx7clubs help. If no help comes up, it will stay conceptual until someone decides to buy the design rights from me.

Hypertek 04-16-09 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9132807)
Hahaha i knew you would spot the NSX in there somewhere! Id think the FD in the picture would also be more obvious. Dude you need to use a tablet, its the only way to go, i am using a Wacom Intuos 3, and photoshop CS4.

What size is your tablet? Any suggestions on a less costly tablet? Not sure i can throw $300 at a tablet unless i can do some drawings to pay for it haha

Tofuman FC3S 04-19-09 11:07 AM

Are you planning on running on doing a MR conversion? If not, those huge (fake)-intakes on the side would be terrible in real life.

Riz.

WingsofWar 04-19-09 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Tofuman FC3S (Post 9139998)
Are you planning on running on doing a MR conversion? If not, those huge (fake)-intakes on the side would be terrible in real life.

Riz.

yeah your right, the rear panels are overly large, the idea for rear ducting was for breaking and side air diffusion but after looking at it several times it would be kind of stupid to have a rear duct that large just for those purposes. I could have gone with smaller ducting.

slidin RX 04-19-09 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9128857)
Gah! Finally done! i just wanted to share with you guys my latest work, hope you like it!

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-Josh

heres a vert version not greatest did just to see body on a vert lol what u think?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r...ebodyfc3s3.jpg

duo2999 04-19-09 10:13 PM

thats a great job

very nice design

Grappler 04-19-09 11:58 PM

I think if you must keep stock tailights go with s5 otherwise I like the idea of making your own...

I must say though... that render is so nice...

Slevin_FD 04-22-09 05:35 PM

Fuck yea. I have found my body kit I think this would mostly be a matter of the fenders right? and rear bumper ???? Maybe I'm wrong. . either way,This must be made.
Second, anyway to make the doors functional.?????
Third. I looked around and I think the tail lights should be similar to the Audi R8 They are similar to the S5 lights but updated and with LED's, and the fenders are similar width wise.


http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...udir8rear2.jpg

redlineracer 04-23-09 05:19 PM

If you build it they will com...

Slevin_FD 04-25-09 07:57 PM

I would think more people would comment on this.

drivinggodspeed 05-01-09 01:57 AM

how long till we can see the tail of this? i think the render is absolutely fantastic. i'm sure whatever you come up with will be the balls...

Big88chevy 05-01-09 02:02 AM

damn dude, that would be amazing.

WingsofWar 05-01-09 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by drivinggodspeed (Post 9172516)
how long till we can see the tail of this? i think the render is absolutely fantastic. i'm sure whatever you come up with will be the balls...

Rear is in the works right now, redesigning the rear section without major body modifications is taking some time, i am also redoing some of the panels and making them more user friendly. In hopes a final version will emerge one day and be a workable and marketable kit.

Dltreezan 05-01-09 09:51 AM

thats awesome. I did something vaguely similar. Everybody said build it but we arent holding our breaths. Well I built it!! Best of luck.

VincenzoL 05-27-09 03:21 PM

Any updates? I haven't checked the 2nd Gen forum for so long, but this thread made me glad that I did!

WingsofWar 05-27-09 03:56 PM

Actually yeah, its taking me longer than i thought mainly because of the new tail light design to be fitted into the body without adjusting the actual shell. Ill post some samples today maybe.

Iv also adjusted the rear panels so they dont have that venturan tunnel but unfortunately every design i came up with required me to adjust the door as well. I tried to steer away from touching the doors but i failed. I just had to because the body lines started to become weird.

Again im still working on the other veiws and im about 40% done with the interior design. It will showcase a modern mazda style dash much similar to the RX8/MS3.

I am also going to try to import the design into 3D once the full concept is finalized.

Dltreezan 05-27-09 05:12 PM

sweet

Gregory Casimir 05-28-09 10:48 AM

it looks great but if you're still taking ideas on the tail lights, i would suggest to put both S4 and S5 together. like the Bar lense out in front with the circles behind it. But not to big when you make the circles. That is an awesome ass drawing though. What school do you go to by the way?

WingsofWar 05-29-09 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by Gregory Casimir (Post 9244790)
it looks great but if you're still taking ideas on the tail lights, i would suggest to put both S4 and S5 together. like the Bar lenses out in front with the circles behind it. But not to big when you make the circles. That is an awesome ass drawing though. What school do you go to by the way?

Funny story, I never took an art class in my life, i just kinda have a talent and self taught basically everything. My sisters the real artist in the family, i think currently shes trying to land a job at Pixar. I on the other hand am in school for my PsyD currently which isn't anywhere near the art industry. I draw and design as just a side hobby and do small commissions.

Back to the car, the tail light design is original. Which means the current S4/S5 block housings are non-existent. But the style of the lights iv designed will retain a sleeker bar design to give homage to S4 and fuse in inspirations with the rear section line style lights from Mazda Furai.

Gregory Casimir 05-29-09 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9247250)
Funny story, I never took an art class in my life, i just kinda have a talent and self taught basically everything. My sisters the real artist in the family, i think currently shes trying to land a job at Pixar. I on the other hand am in school for my PsyD currently which isn't anywhere near the art industry. I draw and design as just a side hobby and do small commissions.

Back to the car, the tail light design is original. Which means the current S4/S5 block housings are non-existent. But the style of the lights iv designed will retain a sleeker bar design to give homage to S4 and fuse in inspirations with the rear section line style lights from Mazda Furai.

Oh okay cool. I'll like to see how that is gonna come out.
I really need to get back into drawing!

tbrshwankel 05-29-09 02:38 PM

As far as taillights... I'd go with the JDM FD if it were me personally... I don't think there's a better looking tallight made.

WingsofWar 08-20-09 04:40 PM

**UPDATE**

I trashed my original rear mock up, i think its just garbage and im ashamed to show anyone. The rear section is proving to be annoying seeing as how a widebody setup like this looks horrible with stock S4/S5 taillights. But what i have tried to accomplish is allowing the stock taillight positioning and just redo a variation of S4 housings and lenses. So they bolt up without cutting or modifying the body. You can also kinda see that the opening passage for the rear duct brake has shrunk and a full upper door panel has been added to flow the body lines.

http://i29.tinypic.com/1zxqo2v.jpg

I tried using some of the features from the furai but they all turned into busts, the center exhaust exit was a trial and even tried adding the rotor muffler. Im leaning towards no on a single exit centered exhaust.


Unfortunately even with this variation i am still not happy with it, and many things are subject to change. I have talked with several individuals about producing a prototype kit and its looking good. However a mold will be done when i am satisfied with it and all the dimensions have been measured. Probably wont see any real work until this winter.

I am still looking for more ideas and inspiration. I was hoping more feedback in this thread.


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