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Old 10-14-11, 09:34 PM
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I got my full rebuild that included every seal except apex, went with RA Supers, gasket kit new oil control springs and o-rings, new bearings for both rotors and stat gears from Ray at Malloy Mazda for just under 1K.

Just grab a rebuild video and learn to do it urself don't lose faith or you've already lost.
Old 10-14-11, 10:31 PM
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Imo everything else short of Ferrari or other high end sports cars lack the soul/uniqueness/heritage that the 7 has. So if you go to some other car, it won't be as good...


Take a break from cars dude. Don't sell it, just pick up the most boring peoplesheep driving appliance you can, dd it, and after a year you will want a fun car.


or just be stubborn about it.

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I have never questioned myself on the dedication I put towards my FC's... Its my hobby/entertainment/passion/whatever(not to sound faggy lol)... I refuse to ever sell my two current FC's, and eventually I will have an FD and RX8 that I will refuse to sell. Why? because I like the cars, and if I'm going to do it, I will do it right and go all out.

But I can understand the other side of it, I'm that way with my DD's, I am getting increasingly **** about them just starting, going, and needing minimal work. I'm ready to call it quits with the 240sx and just get a nice comfy Lexus or Merc for a dd.


Regardless, do what you want, if you have to convince yourself into liking something, you don't like it. Don't be a *** about it
Old 10-14-11, 10:36 PM
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I took others' advice at one point (even though my Rotary was running fine):

Old 10-14-11, 10:46 PM
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^^^ Pfh cheater.
like they said drive another car for a little while and you will miss that car like crazy. I drove my Mustang for a year then I had to have my 7 back. Almost every part I replace in the mustang broke again. I installed a newer heater core and it only lasted 6 months. You will miss the pop up headlights as well. Every time I turn them ON I grin a little.
Old 10-14-11, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDavid218
I took others' advice at one point (even though my Rotary was running fine):

i'd rather have a 20B for how much you paid for the conversion. don't give some stupid figure like $2k either...
Old 10-14-11, 11:26 PM
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I agree with what others have said about building your own engine and not catching and/or cleaning up a previous owner's mess. In anything in life it is soooo much harder to play catch up once you fall behind than it is to maintain as you go. It's kinda like getting fat and having to get back into shape. You have to work twice as hard to get back to where you were. Same thing is true of cars. If you are having bad luck and having to deal with previous owners messes you are spending twice as much energy simply to keep the car on the road.

The way I see it you have an opportunity to start from scratch. I just completed my first rebuild with no local help. All I had was over the phone advice, forums, Atkins DVD, Aaron Cake vid, Haynes and FSM. I won't lie that I'm still working bugs out of my rebuild, but that's more my own fault. I took on too much at one time. First time doing any major engine work of any kind, first rebuild, full drivetrain swap, first electric fan install and wiring, 4 aftermarket gauges, as well as prepping body panels for paint.

If you need N/A engine parts let me know. I may teardown my old S5 N/A engine this weekend. It's a well maintained engine that never lost compression or blew any seals. But it is a Mazda Remanned engine.
Old 10-15-11, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDavid218
I took others' advice at one point (even though my Rotary was running fine):
Also, I really wish you hadn't said and posted that.. I'd have liked to avoid the flame war that it brings..
[PS, read my sig, but please don't comment on it.. *trying to avoid the flame war*]

Originally Posted by Karack
i'd rather have a 20B for how much you paid for the conversion. don't give some stupid figure like $2k either...
+1

BACK ON TOPIC!!
So, if you're frustrated with the car and really need something to get to work... Put off the rebuild, buy a 1994 Nissan Sentra E trim 5-speed and enjoy some ridiculously good fuel economy while you save up for parts. ^_^ I've thought about this a number of times [not because I'm worried about the car breaking down, but because it'd be really nice to have 40MPG freeway when my GF lives 25miles away... XD]
Old 10-15-11, 03:56 AM
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if it says to reach redline once and youll be ok my old motor will live for ever lmao i hit redline every single time i got in the car and i slid the **** out of it the car still runs to this day no problems and never has had a problem except for minor things here and there which were mainly my fault
Old 10-15-11, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by I fc3SLIDE
if it says to reach redline once and youll be ok my old motor will live for ever lmao i hit redline every single time i got in the car and i slid the **** out of it the car still runs to this day no problems and never has had a problem except for minor things here and there which were mainly my fault
My motor died after my two months of trying to baby it to get better MPGs. A friend who worked at mazda asked me if i was babying it then said I should have been beating it like it was a red headed step child. I don't know any other car that reving it to redline all the time will make it last longer. It is fun to have people question your driving and reply it is good for this car.
Old 10-15-11, 04:08 PM
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Its not that I need somebody else to convince me to love this car. But whenever it is broken down and taunting you in the driveway; it is hard to remember why you loved and spent 6k on a "totaled" car worth maybe 1,500 in good shape. I was really hoping the thread somebody had started describing them going on a spirited drive would surface; still can't find it with the search button. I sold my car on thursday and just bought it back for $150 more than I sold it for. It was like seeing my girlfriend of three years getting ready to f..k some other guy... because I told her to. lol.

Anyway, I'm hoping to pick up this nissan nx1600 for 600 and then I'm going to do a full TII swap/rebuild... hopefully.. Until then I'm re-doing all the suspension.

If anybody knows what thread I'm talking about that would be awesome.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-non-technical-pictures-198/rx-7-therapy-%5B10-years-ago%5D-969150/ <-- that is it.

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Old 10-15-11, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
i'd rather have a 20B for how much you paid for the conversion. don't give some stupid figure like $2k either...
No, it was expensive, don't get me wrong. Also don't try and think I have anything against the Rotary... mine ran great for 4 years while I had it in there.
Old 10-16-11, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDavid218
No, it was expensive, don't get me wrong. Also don't try and think I have anything against the Rotary... mine ran great for 4 years while I had it in there.
well it does get tiring seeing so many people bash on the rotary, give up, install a LS engine that is only 5 years old and say it is the best thing they ever did for their car.

the rotary that it replaced had 10-15 more years of abuse and god knows what little maintenance done, as we all know so many people just gas up their cars and drive it until it blows up.. same thing happens to piston engines that have over 100k and 20 years and lack of maintenance.

the 2 previous statements are true of any car, not just these.

but i'm wondering why this thread is here after the OP's last comment.. you want reassurance from stories of other people driving their cars? what you need is a kick in the *** to setup a space to start cleaning parts... so get the **** to it and stop feeling sorry for yourself!

if i had it so simple with a non turbo engine i wouldn't have anything to bitch and gripe about, i started out with a turbo II and began modifying it, testing, breaking parts, tearing the engine apart to fix things, reassemble, test more, blow things up, rinse and repeat X10. but the original engine i built about 10 years ago now has about 50k miles on it and had over 100k on the parts originally. i wouldn't hesitate to drive it across the US, put it on a boat to europe and then drive across europe with it now. ALL of the issues i had were learning to tune with boost back when there was zero info on this forum about tuning or maps or much help in that respect. if i had started with a naturally aspirated engine it would have given me no hassle.

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Hey Kentucky...had a bad day...Well cheer up.....here is the cure stop buying old beaters with bad engines....unless you know where your car came from.,you have no Idea how its been treated or cared for..if you can learn not to drink and drive your cars may last longer,and if you want a long lasting rotary engine..either get Atkins to build you one with new(rotor) housings and all new rubbers O rings, as well as oil control rings, apex seals oil pump chain etc all new gaskets on a lapped set of housings, or buy the parts and stuggle with the rebuild your self either way an engine built with a warranty.is your best bet...as long as you can install it properly it would be easier making(engine loan) payment to your bank than sitting around wondering how you are going to get your fixed ....Just a thought
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atkins doesn't lap irons, they replace any worn ones. so i'd say that is out unless he has a set of irons within tolerance or uses a shop who can lap them.

at any rate, it's not a bad idea to figure out how to rebuild an engine on your own. these engines are quite simple actually.
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I was thinking about rebuilding my N/A when it blew but I got really scared about it. Now that I am a little more fimilar with this car I want to tear it down and rebuild it. Maybe put it into my Locost that I want to build. However it is in WI and I am FL with no real shop of my own. Maybe If I could get the flywheel nut off it would have been apart by now.
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Originally Posted by Karack
at any rate, it's not a bad idea to figure out how to rebuild an engine on your own. these engines are quite simple actually.
Exactly! When I built that first engine on the garage floor I was pretty scared.. But I had no where near enough money to even conceive of paying a shop to do it. Once I got into it, I was amazed at how it was actually super easy [save for loosing a corner seal to the garage.. ^_^']

raksj04 >> Search Craigslist for a used DeWalt 1/2" electric impact gun, then a 3/4" adapter and flywheel socket. The DeWalt should be around $60 used, and about $30 for the socket new. Use a propane torch on the nut until it changes color *slightly* then hit it with the impact gun B)
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