Thermostat "A" control valve question

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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 01:27 AM
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Thermostat "A" control valve question

Hey. You can find info about me and my car here. I have a question about vacuum control valve of "A" thermostat. According to the electric manual, 3-way solenoid "D" sends constant vacuum to keep the valve closed when ignition is on. According to the car manual (google photo translate):

Conditions for closing the switching valve (thermostat cover ASSY)

a) Normal mode

e) Intake air temperature sensor is normal

f) Intake air temperature is 15 ℃ or more after starting the engine

g) Engine speed is 469rpm or more

b) A / C: OFF

c) Water temperature lower 108 ℃

d) Normal water temperature sensor

If any one of the above conditions is not satisfied, the switching valve (thermostat cover ASSY) opens and cooling water flows from the thermostat (A) to the radiator.

So, there are my questions:

1) My thermostat cover valve doesn't hold vacuum (when I'm trying to suck air from it it goes free) - valve broken? (I was cheking on cold partly disassembled engine)

2) Black cover cap of valve has a little hole on it - for what?

3) Is that valve opened or closed by defaulf or when its broken?

4) Is it possible to remove top black cap to fix the valve if it is broken?
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 10:04 AM
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most of the ones i've seen/tested are bad, they don't hold vacuum, so it will always be closed. on the 20B FC, you can cut the thing off and add a radiator cap there, the engine will always be running on 2 thermostats, but this seems ok. and B we can't get the hot thermostat in the USA anyways.

the way the system works is that it normally runs off of a 92c thermostat, and when needed, it can open the valve and add the 82c thermostat. so when you're just loafing along at 1500rpm the engine actually warms up, and when you step on it, it stays cool.
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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most of the ones i've seen/tested are bad, they don't hold vacuum, so it will always be closed. on the 20B FC, you can cut the thing off and add a radiator cap there, the engine will always be running on 2 thermostats, but this seems ok. and B we can't get the hot thermostat in the USA anyways.

the way the system works is that it normally runs off of a 92c thermostat, and when needed, it can open the valve and add the 82c thermostat. so when you're just loafing along at 1500rpm the engine actually warms up, and when you step on it, it stays cool.
Thank you for the answer. So, when this valve is NOT connected to vacuum (hose disconnected, for example) - is it closed or opened inside? My guess was that it closes when vacuum is on.
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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Thank you for the answer. So, when this valve is NOT connected to vacuum (hose disconnected, for example) - is it closed or opened inside? My guess was that it closes when vacuum is on.
its closed. its pretty similar to the valve in the Air Control Valve
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
its closed. its pretty similar to the valve in the Air Control Valve
Just removed it for closer look. It is opened when disconnected, and not moving.

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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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So on mine I just swapped to 180* stats. In both. If I unhook the vacuum it will run cooler at all times ?
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