I'll be keeping my 20B, thank you...

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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I'll be keeping my 20B, thank you...

Just wanted to make a post to those that care. A short while back, I posted a feeler thread about selling my beloved 20B10AE. It wasn't something I wanted to do, it just seemed that, with my job not paying much of anything along with bills and other problems mounting, I was in a corner.

Luckily, a large number of forum members, most of whom I didn't even know beforehand, sent me supportive PMs and emails trying to bring me back to reality. I sincerely appreciate everyone who did so. Thanks to SirRupertHobo's generosity and practically giving me a starter, I was able to get the car to a point where I was able to diagnose the last of the wiring gremlins that had recently been giving me so much grief. I still have a few small things, but for the most part she lives again, as does my will to remain an active rotorhead.

I've put quite a bit into this car, both time and money, and it is SO close to being what I've always wanted it to be. This feat has come, in no small part, thanks to some very knowledgeable members of this forum. (RETed, BDC and j9fd3s to name but a few...there are MANY others.)

Although I knew of the 20B long before I met him, George Samuels would be the ultimate culprit if I were to point a finger at any one individual to be held responsible for my current engine configuration. George was cruel (errr...KIND?!?) enough to speak with me ad nauseum at VIR a few years ago about the virtues of his conversion. Then he did me the biggest favor. He handed me the keys. That pretty much cemented the idea in my head that, one day, I would also enjoy this Grail of sorts. Thanks, George!

Finally, my beautiful wife deserves a mention. If not for her understanding that sometimes (often), she comes second to my passion for these cars, I would still be puttering around wishing my convertable was a little faster. LOL. Thank you, Joy.

To those who actually read this far, I apologize for the length. I'm just happy that I've made a decision about all of this that I can live with.

Reese
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Is that at fontana village?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Yep. at the last Gap run.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Glad your keeping it man...

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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smart decision!
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Reese, I'm glad everything work'd out and you were able to keep your car, I remember talking to you @ The Gap over dinner and I could tell you a true diehard rotorhead. Hopefully next year when we do the Gap again I will have my car there and we can take each other's for a spin.

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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John, sounds great! It's true. I simply love these cars/motors. Most of the people around here tell me that I can't possibly give them up, as I've put up with so much already. Heh. Apparently, I have some sort of divine patience or something.

Personally, I think it's the occasional ranting tirade I unleash upon the car when it isn't cooperating that helps!

Reese
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Awesome, good move. What kind of wiring problems did you have and what ems are you running? Im just curious.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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I'm really glad to hear that you've managed to keep it. Ever since riding in it, I've had the urge to put a 20B in my FC sometime down the road.

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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I think he is running a mcrotech ,but didnt you say you had problems with it starting as well.. BTW Happy to hear your keeping it
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Nope. Not a Microtech. I'm using a Haltech E11.

One of my wiring issues was the fact that I would intermittently lose my L1 signal. I tried swapping coils, but the same thing happened to any coil I used. Obviously, it was the wiring. I tested for continuity on each wire. No issues there, either. Grrrrr... In conjunction with my financial distress, this was getting to be too much. Keep in mind that this was driving me nuts for a couple of weeks, not just a day or two.

While trying to find the problem, I found out that the ECU end of the connector had partially disintegrated inside! There is a small white plastic peice that separates the individual wires that was simply missing one corner section. Also, there was moisture and corrosion on some of those wires. :Sigh: if it's not one thing, it's another. A call to Haltech got me a new connector, and a little time took care of the corroded wires.

I finally decided to pull the whole harness from the car to unwrap it and see what I could find out. Not a whole lot seemed to be wrong, so I wrapped it back up and put it back in the car. STILL nothing. On a whim, I decided to actually pull on each wire in the coil connector. BINGO! It turns out that one of the clips that is supposed to hold the wire snugly in place was actually bent in half, and it allowed the plug to back out just enough when attached to the coil. The odd thing is that jiggling the connector while the car was running didn't make any difference in whether it worked or not.

Anyway, I redid that wire and...the starter went out. **** IT!! That's when I decided to try to get rid of it. I took it as a sign.

The rest I've already caught you up on, which puts us here.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Damn sounds like a pain the ****. Hopefully when my 20B goes in sometime, I wont have any problems you mentioned with my E11. Its already been back to Aussie land once and thats one too many times for me.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Heh. In Haltech's defense, the problems I had weren't directly related to anything THEY did. Wiring connectors, etc was done after the sale, and the corrosion, etc was unrelated to them as well.

I've been using Haltech's for about 4 years now, and I'll continue to use them. I've never had any real issues that couldn't be resolved, either by Haltech or by going back and rechecking what I had done myself. (You think anyone at Haltech is reading this? I'd love to be sent an E8 for 'evaluation purposes' since I'm a relatively long-term user. LMAO)

Reese
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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once again, glad to hear u are keeping it. i remember when u first got the haltech, oh the rambling u use to do, but by all means, keep rambling, i learn something new everytime u open your mouth
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 20B10AE
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Although I knew of the 20B long before I met him, George Samuels would be the ultimate culprit if I were to point a finger at any one individual to be held responsible for my current engine configuration. George was cruel (errr...KIND?!?) enough to speak with me ad nauseum at VIR a few years ago about the virtues of his conversion. Then he did me the biggest favor. He handed me the keys. That pretty much cemented the idea in my head that, one day, I would also enjoy this Grail of sorts. Thanks, George!

<snip>

Reese
Oh sure! Blame it on me. Seriously, you're welcome.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Reese, Glad to know you are going to keep it. Hope to see you at the next Deals Gap run.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Very glad to see that you kept it. The car looks good, congrats on all your hard work

I gave mine up, it's being shipped to the new owner in Michigan tomorrow. At this point I think the 20b, bride seats and few misc remaining items I kept will be FS as soon as I move into my new house and can clean out the storage shed.

Keep up the good work Reese!!

-Chris
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