RICE RACING

Corey do not resort to that **** mate ! I have ALOT of experience so If you want to start slandering me then lets start ! If you want to be civil then I have time for this too.

AJC13B

Anthony - Too true. But I will stick with my Haltech thanks! I have the best tuner on the planet 30 minutes from my house and a Haltech engineer for a friend.

If I had the same support for a Microtech, it may be different, but I have seen how much trouble people that don't have Pac or Maztech in their name can have when trying to get assistance from Dom :p

How is your recovery going anyway?

Anthony Rodrigues

AJC13B
I am glad that you have faith in your tuner, it is very hard finding someone that you can be happy with. It takes other shops with their customers to make this industry feesible. Good luck with your own project! Regardless of what is said on these forums, its your money and your car, if you enjoy it you have spent your money well!!
Thank you for asking, my recovery is flying along, and I hope to be back to 100% within 3-6mths. I will end up with severe scarring to my legs and thumb, only slight facial scarring, but I never won any beauty comps before so its no great fuss!

1000HP20B

Rice,
When you do achieve those, results, I'll give you all the respect in the world, and I'll listen to your technical advice myself.
But for now, people wouldnt keep calling you a ******** if you just calmed down a bit.

10sec rx7

good to hear that you are coming along well Anthony,

Any plans for a new car??

RICE RACING

Despite our proffesional differences on things and Your friend Corey thinking I have no credability, I am glad to hear that you are OK, being caught it an Inferno would be the scariest things I can imagine.

From a ******** to and arrogant F*%$K I hope you make a full recovery.

1000HP20B

Rice,
This isnt Corey, he's the driver, I am Tim from R.P.M Perfomance Centre, I build and tune the car.

RICE RACING

Only people who are threatend by my differing opinion to them call me that ! You cannot get much different than the almost ONLY person in Australia who runs an Autronic ECU !

I can live with that, I do everything myself, and always have due to my Qualifications, I come on here to share my opinions and MANY people agree with my findings and lots of people go away and do their own research to verify what my opinions are.

I am not looking for your or Anthony respect, but I will not be put down by you either just because I do not have a quick drag car.

So if you want to be friends then that is cool with me, we can share technical information, that is the reason why I am here, to share my experiences and knowledge with other rotary enthusiasts....For the whole purpose to see more people enjoy the pleasure of owning them and racing them.

I think, or hope that is the reason why you guys are here?

1000HP20B

Rice,
You seem to have mellowed out a bit, good, we all need to get over this and get back to work I think.
Oviously were all never going to agree with each other and should come to terms with it.

AJC13B

I have every faith in my tuner. If you do not have faith in your tuner, well, your fucked bascially!

Alot of people ask me what ECU should they run. I used to tell them Haltech everytime. Now, I ask them what their local shop and/or tuner works with. It's no good advising them to get a Haltech if their local tuner/shop doesn't own a laptop or asks where to plug the handset into the ECU

RETed

Just goes to show...you throw enough money and time and patience into tuning any computer, you can make it work.



-Ted

RICE RACING

You have hit the nail on the head, It;s all about support by people who know the systems inside out. I could not believe a few years ago when a Notable front running F2 rally guy here in Canberra rang me at my house to come and tune his Autronic injected rally car because I was the only one he trusted locally to do the job !

If you have the support then a poor system technically can be made to be much better than the better spec unit that is not set up correctly.

In the US they are very fortunate that Haltech has a base there and they have unbelievable web support to help resolve almost ANY concievable technical question or issue, combine this with the the fact that on paper they are better than most units and it is easy to see why they are SOOOO popular, I could not believe it when I first saw it years ago when I joined this forum, I thought "Why the **** is everyone using Haltech?"

My, and this is my opinion is that when the new E11 unit comes out, It will be hard for ANY ecu maker or distributor to match the overall package that Haltech offer...This must be the unit of choice for 20B users in the near future if they want to run split timming with high resolution mapping?

RICE RACING

RETed like I said you can make anything work, look at what you can do with a carby !

9 or almost 10 years ago when I ran a 13B PP on the street with 51IDA Webber people could not believe that I could get it to run at 1000rpm and be more drivable than a bridge port !

Anthony may know about this but I bought the engine from SelectMaz where he did he worked before opening his shop, Straight out of a race car (Ron Newbounds Escort) So a full race PP on the road and totaly streetable !

The point is with skill and time things can be made to work, and in some types of environments, total system accuracy is maybe not so much of an issue...Drag racing is a classic example of this.

Things can work well from a not so sound base with a bit of expertise, things can be made to be exceptional with an excellent base and experienced tunning, though you may not need all of these features depending on your applications or you may be able to do without the perfect system and the benifits it offers due to budjet constraints.

RICE RACING

Back to the original question !

Bruno after reading your posts and your feelings about the Microtech, I think the only real solution for you is to wait for the new Haltech if you want to run a split with only one ECU box.

If you want split with less tunning resolution then Microtechs system is available in a single box unit.

If you are willing to run T&L together then you can run the other top end ECUs, but make sure of getting support with setup if you are not able to attack this yourself? Keep in mind that with Autronic systems and Motec as well they have Auto Tune functions that basically make people such as me and Hitman almost redundant ! You can simply input the a/f ratio you desire to run and the unit will self map on its own with NO CHANCE of engine failure basically. If you want more info about this stuff send me an e-mail and I will put you in touch with engine dyno operators who can tell you more about these systems in greater detail.

Hope this sorts things out for you?

AJC13B

Bruno - Run a carby mate

RICE RACING

And lock that Racing Beat dizzy ! that is the full sic set up mate

kabooski

This was good read hehe

I'm considering getting the MTX-8(L)

I've been doing ALOT of reading
I do like the Haltech support group
but I also like the MTX's price

I'm into drag racing -not road racing
which I bet 95% of people trying to put big turbos
20B's etc are doing the same.


So what if it wont controll my A/C
my electric fans etc

Sure there are better ECU's
but I would not call Microtechs systems ****
Results speak for themselves!!

Mrbishi

some of u guys that run businesses are acting like 5 year olds, its a mircle you guys have been around so long if this is the way you act!

10sec rx7

The LTX8 can control idel up and fans.

Anthony Rodrigues

Kabooski,
Microtech can run idle speed control motors/by-pass and have inputs for this to be controlled relative to fans/ water temp/ air con/ rpm. Other new functions include boost control/ knock retard(specific aplications)/data logging/two step limiters which can also be used as anti lag. Dom is always open to developments from myself, Pac or many other agents, but as we all finally have agreed it can only be as good as its tuner, so find a good one.
Good luck.

Anthony Rodrigues

Rice,
I did not know that you bought the engine out of Rons car. One of the engines that came out of the Escort was the PP that I had built originally out of my black rx 3 before I went Turbo. If it was the same one it was a small D port PP that would hall *** from 4K and behaved on the street like a baby. I won the Street Machine Rotary drag class-NA, 12.66 bridgestones back in the late 80's with that. We all had to start somewhere and Izzy knew his ported engines.

DELTA_Rotary

I'm going to throw my .02 in this. 1000HP20B you made the comment that Rice is loosing his credibility. I'd say its the other way around. Rice comes on here and helps the rotary community constantly. You and Anthony on the other hand have racked up a staggering total of 40 posts half of which seem to come from this thread of bashing him for his opinion of an ECU which is obvious your biased toward and are defending it because of your own self interests. I thank Rice and The Hitman for voicing their opinions. When YOU start making some contributions to the forum which arent in your own self intrests maybe YOU can get some credibility.

kabooski

well Delta

I'm sure These Guys are super busy
they got some of the best rotary shops in the WORLD!

with Lots of tricked out customer cars I see all the time
on fullboost

Rice like ReTed do contribute to this forum alot
I give them props for that

However one does look slightly foolish trying to question the knowledge of one best rotary tuners in Australia with a proven track record

DELTA_Rotary

Well I'd say the Hitmans reputation for rotary performance isnt to shabby along with the numbers Rice has made with his car. And evidently the best rotary shops in the world get owned by the small island of puerto rico.

kabooski

So as in australia
there very in par both are into old school rotarys

However there is ONE MAJOR diffrence dude

The Aussies MAKE there OWN stuff
from apex seals
to EFI manifolds
to rx100 rx2 rx3 r4 replica parts
to engine management systems
fuel pumps
fuel regulators
blow off valves
boost controllers
wastegates
to engine adapters
transmission gears and LSD's
lightened flywheels
so and and so on

The Puerto Ricans
DO NOT make anything (except for chassis and fiberglass)
I lived in P.R for 5 years (even tho im not a P.R)