20b Conversion questions.
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Thanks forthe offer of the parts, but I've figured out a way to hook up the turbo and have the parts to controll it. I'll put pictures up later today of the manifold that I made. I think it's a pretty good acomplishment for my first try.(that and not having the tools to do it right. Anyways the latest issues that are getting tackled this week are the drive shaft, and the clutch. I have to pull the engine again so I can replace the clutch fork. While the engine is out I'm going to clean up the engine bay some. I'll probably end up painting the whole bay, but I'm not sure just yet.
Could someone also tell me why you can't seperate the twins and only run the larger of them on two of the rotors? Because that's what I'm planning on doing.
Could someone also tell me why you can't seperate the twins and only run the larger of them on two of the rotors? Because that's what I'm planning on doing.
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Thanks forthe offer of the parts, but I've figured out a way to hook up the turbo and have the parts to controll it. I'll put pictures up later today of the manifold that I made. I think it's a pretty good acomplishment for my first try.(that and not having the tools to do it right. Anyways the latest issues that are getting tackled this week are the drive shaft, and the clutch. I have to pull the engine again so I can replace the clutch fork. While the engine is out I'm going to clean up the engine bay some. I'll probably end up painting the whole bay, but I'm not sure just yet.
Could someone also tell me why you can't seperate the twins and only run the larger of them on two of the rotors? Because that's what I'm planning on doing.
Could someone also tell me why you can't seperate the twins and only run the larger of them on two of the rotors? Because that's what I'm planning on doing.
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Honestly, I'd imagine something like this to be a joke. Something literally made for laughs. I'm SURE I'm not the only one.
There is no way that that is the best that you can do. Even if all you have access to is a flux-core welder, you can still get some pipe bends and spend *a little* bit of time designing and cutting pieces to fit.
This is a significant step down from the stock arrangement.
Don't take this as bashing, as I applaud what you're trying to pull off with this conversion, take it as sincere constructive criticism. Have some pride in your craftsmanship. I don't even know you, and I'm convinced that that is not the best that you can do.
There is no way that that is the best that you can do. Even if all you have access to is a flux-core welder, you can still get some pipe bends and spend *a little* bit of time designing and cutting pieces to fit.
This is a significant step down from the stock arrangement.
Don't take this as bashing, as I applaud what you're trying to pull off with this conversion, take it as sincere constructive criticism. Have some pride in your craftsmanship. I don't even know you, and I'm convinced that that is not the best that you can do.
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I would have to agree with Calculon man. There is no way that you can use that and be successful. Do you have any idea what the inside of that looks like? I gaurantee it looks more rough than the outside which is going to seriously restrict your exhaust. Please dont put that on. Cut the pipes off and buy some pre-mandrel bent pipes from jegs or summit, cut them in the way that works best tack them together so that there is a smooth transition then take them to someone to have them welded. You have a long way to go with your welding before you should try to finish something like this. Just like calculon said this isnt a bashing just honesty.
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wow! i don't even know what to say...
Is this your first time welding? if so i recommend you getting help from somebody that knows how to.. Please don't take this the wrong way.
granted we had all the tools to do it and still took us about a week to do.
your attempt to make a manifold looks like you put a bunch of scrap pieces of pipes you had laying around and slapped them together.
this is what a manifold should look like..
Is this your first time welding? if so i recommend you getting help from somebody that knows how to.. Please don't take this the wrong way.
granted we had all the tools to do it and still took us about a week to do.
your attempt to make a manifold looks like you put a bunch of scrap pieces of pipes you had laying around and slapped them together.
this is what a manifold should look like..
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wow! i don't even know what to say...
Is this your first time welding? if so i recommend you getting help from somebody that knows how to.. Please don't take this the wrong way.
granted we had all the tools to do it and still took us about a week to do.
your attempt to make a manifold looks like you put a bunch of scrap pieces of pipes you had laying around and slapped them together.
this is what a manifold should look like..
Is this your first time welding? if so i recommend you getting help from somebody that knows how to.. Please don't take this the wrong way.
granted we had all the tools to do it and still took us about a week to do.
your attempt to make a manifold looks like you put a bunch of scrap pieces of pipes you had laying around and slapped them together.
this is what a manifold should look like..
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I've posted a few - nothing more than the car in pieces.
(some old ones: https://www.rx7club.com/20b-forum-95/7mount-20b-868141/)
...still have a lot of c/f to lay up for the i/c ducting.
Between the ABS swap junk and all the other crazy b/s going on with it - the engine has taken a backseat... for example, I haven't even test fitted the new turbo yet :-\
(some old ones: https://www.rx7club.com/20b-forum-95/7mount-20b-868141/)
...still have a lot of c/f to lay up for the i/c ducting.
Between the ABS swap junk and all the other crazy b/s going on with it - the engine has taken a backseat... for example, I haven't even test fitted the new turbo yet :-\
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I would love to make the tubes the way you guys did, but i just don't have the money or the space to run them like that....I'll post a picture of the space i have to work with, and you can tell me what you think. i have to pretty much come out of the exhaust, and go straight into the turbo. secondly, i don't have the money to put up for a nice turbo setup just yet, so i'm using the larger of the stock turbos. if anyone knows of a cheaper way to go than the way i'm doing it, then be my guest....until i can afford a decent turbo, and an engine rebuild, i'm not going to worry too much about how the manifold looks. It's just got to do the job...and i think it'll work pretty well for what i need. Also, last but not least the tools i am working with....flux core welder (garbage), hacksaw, and my eyeball for spacing inside the car. So for a true redneck job i would say it could use some work, but it's good enough for what i need. Also, the picture is how much room i have to work with. Any ideas?
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it has nothing to do with what it looks like, its the way you have constructed it, and the way you have routed the exhaust tubing.. by having the first and second rotors powering the turbo and the third rotors exhaust dumping in after the turbo.. well.. it just isn't going to work. lol
but yeah, i would look very closely at what bewtew has posted. i would practice your welding skills on scrap pipes till you really get your seams good. then when you're ready, go ahead and get some mandrel bent pipes and stuff.
better yet, buy something, or have it made.
but yeah, i would look very closely at what bewtew has posted. i would practice your welding skills on scrap pipes till you really get your seams good. then when you're ready, go ahead and get some mandrel bent pipes and stuff.
better yet, buy something, or have it made.
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Because, i know what i have, and i want to finish this project. It's a lot of fun, and when i'm done it'll be the only one around. That's why i don't just sell it.
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Yes, i do....it's not my first one. I had an 86 gxl before, so i've had some experience with them. The only thing i don't really know how to do is rebuild them. Although i could probably figure out how to do it if i had an extra one lying around.
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I dont think this swap is for you bro - you have TONS of room to move that engine over to the drivers side.
I'm hoping that is at least an early / unlettered 20B.. I'm sorry mate but I dont have any faith in this project and wish you would put the endangered 20B back into rightful hands.
What I'm not understanding is if you're honestly joking or what.
Those engines sell for $2k - $4k range and it's going into a camaro?! I.. I'm speechless.
I'm hoping that is at least an early / unlettered 20B.. I'm sorry mate but I dont have any faith in this project and wish you would put the endangered 20B back into rightful hands.
What I'm not understanding is if you're honestly joking or what.
Those engines sell for $2k - $4k range and it's going into a camaro?! I.. I'm speechless.
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This guy is not going to listen, even though he asked the question, to anything we tell him and even though we are just trying to help out. So let him do it and when it fails then maybe when he comes to this forum and asks for help...if he will, maybe he will listen then. Sorry dude, but everyone on here has tried to help and you are obviously in a time crunch of some sort. There is space restrictions of coarse. We all deal with that. You want something no one else has...dont we all? Do what you got to do dude.