KarmaCult

Ok, Pardon if I mix up gargon and what not, but what would be better for performance, reliability and such
A 13b motor
or a 12b with Turbo?
I don't really know what I'm asking, like um, ok, which one rocks the others *** with reliability and stuff, but has a larger power possibility then the other (Power is my 2nd concert, but it is still a concern)

like hmm, ok, lets say the 12 with Turbo is capable of like 400 HP (Don't know if thats possible or not) but breaks down (overheats or something) alot and the 13 is able to pull only 325, but the 13 is able to idle smooth, and I don't have to worry about it breaking down and what not, then that would make it better then the 12 with turbo.
Does that make sense?

Did I just answer my own question with that example, or am I wrong? Cause I'm saving up for an engine, and I'm wondering what I should look for, of course a 13b with Turbo would be sweet, but I'm only asking about those two mentioned engines, cause 13b with turbo is the 'answer' kinda to all the questions but at a larger ticket price

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tomsrotary

who ever supplies your drugs, give me his phone number! haha. J/K

So u are saving for an engine to be put into a gen 1 rx7.
Well, are u after big HP? Overheating problems can be stopped.

Its all about how much $$$ u have. Whats your max budget for an engine and fitting?

and reliability, depends how much boost u run, how u treat it, warm it up and how regulary u have it serviced, and how many miles the engine has on it.

I'm getting around to putting a 12a turbo engine into my S3, why? because it bolts all up very easily, and has 165hp+ (depending on mods) I will be fitting an intercooler, after market comp (probably microtech) and upped boost (10psi) that "should" give me around 190 - 220hp depending on turbo condition and tuning and around mid - low 14's on the 1/4. Is that what YOU are after? I wouldn't know what americans pay for engine and labour so i can't help u one that.

OR

U can go for the 13b turbo engine. More torque and more power. And it is in reach for normal people to gain 200rwkw's With a few mods and correct tuning. Though having it fitted will have its own problems.

AdrenalifeRX7

They are pretty much the same in reliability and are very much alike in design. A 13B can usually be tuned to make more HP than a 12A.

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

Unless you car came with a Turbo, don't turbo it.
I could be wrong, but based upon your post, you seem confused about the rotary engine itself.

Turbocharging is a whole other beast.
Stick around, read up, and learn what you can.

Before you know it, you'll answer your own question.

Learn to walk before you boost.

KarmaCult

Well, I'm pretty good with the turbos and what not, at low boosts, my friend had (Wrecked it) A 89' TTA (Turbo Trans Am) that I used to work on alot, and I learned abit from that.
But what I am concerned about is like, in my camaro, I can throw a 150 to upwards of 200 Hp shot of NNAAAAWWWWZZZZ (You have to say it like that, it just makes it sound more cliche) But with my soonly made 454, I can't just throw all that junk into it, cause for some reason 305's love the giggle juice (There are reasons, and I know them, but this isn't a camaro board ) but some bigger engines don't (its not that they just blow up or anything, its just that they don't like it, like their too good for it or something )

but you do got me on the 'you seem confused about the rotary engine itself.' Man, I look at it, and I still go "duh"
But I'm learning, like I know the parts and such that are in it, how it runs and what not, but seeing as I have never had to rebuild one, Im still not completely understanding it.

See, whats happening is I'm getting a fairly large settlement for a car accident (My poor 91 Firebird **cries**) And I'm buying A new engine and tranny for my camaro (Lt1 and 6 speed from 4th gen Camaro), and then also buying the RX7 a new engine (And tranny if needed) and I'm wondering what would be the best bang for the buck engine for the RX7, if it was my car, I would buy whatever was fastest, but its my Girlfriends, so it has to be reliable, and nothing that can get her into to much trouble, cause she does find herself racing alot on the streets, even though I tell her to take it to the track up the road, Seriously, if you accidently touch your gas peddle at a red light, she will take that as a challenge, mostly just to hondas and such, you know, with the HUGE spoilers and Fart Cans, but those cars need to be smacked around in public like that

So yea, I need an engine that my girlfriend can drive without knowing its powerful, but it also doubles for when I goto the track (or whatever) and smoke some imports

And my Drug dealers name is..... Ah I'm just playing I don't have a drug dealer, what actually happened was I spent afew hours in a garage with a friend working on his 84 Accord (with a 3 berrel Carb, no spoiler, no fart can) and it had a huge exhaust leak, to cut the story short, we were damn messed up, swimmy heads and everything, not our fault though, we didn't realise the garage was filling up until I put my glass's on and there was a fine thin *** white smoke everywhere, he passed out when we reached 'clean' air, I just felt like I was in Highschool again

So I walked home after that, still messed up, and posted this thread

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diabolical1

iTrader: (3)

I will second what Directfreak said ... and it goes double especially since it's going to be a car for a third party.

The best thing I can say in good conscience is this: if you're sure about getting a Gen I Rx-7 (or any other for that matter) for your girlfriend, buy the best "running" stock car you can get and the two of can learn about it for a while firsthand. They are not BAD or EVIL cars by any means, but as you admitted when you said you still go "duh" - they are not Camaros, they're not even Toyotas for that matter!

They REQUIRE conscious care and common sense and won't tolerate anything less.

So if you get the car for her, as I said, both of need to spend some time just driving and getting to know the car. Learn about them (and you've made a pretty good first step coming to this board) during that time, and if you decide to commit, then ask whatever questions you still have.

Deal?

Matty's first 1st Gen

from my experience i find the 13b to be slightly more reliable. with that being said they are also capable of producing more power because their rotors are bigger.
they are a bit harder to install in a first gen, but not that bad with the proper mounting kit.