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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Why no Aluminium radiator?

I'm continually searching for an Aluminium radiator for the RX-7 to no avail...

Just outta curiousity, anyone have any idea why?

Brass' Cons:

Different metal.. Electrolytic chemical reaction creates corrosion buildup...

Heavier... Weight = teh sux0r

More expensive... I think

Less thermoconductively efficient... Also, I think...


So yeah... To create one, I was toying with the idea of getting a SA radiator (Thick enough end tanks to take 3 row cores) and a tall style FB radiator for the side brackets, and having a local radiator shop recore it with a 3 row aluminium core, using the SA end tanks and the tall style brackets as a measurement for length...

But all the 1st gen radiators I've seen anywhere have brass end tanks... I was looking at some aftermarket radiators for the RX-7 and found some wiht plastic end tanks... Anyone know if the plastic end tanks are avialable from anywhere seperately?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Crecent City Radiators in New orleans makes custom radiators.

I'll get you the phone number.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Howe Radiators has a radiator that works with 1st gen. Just Measure yours and go to summitracing.com Must drill bolt holes.

Keep in mind, you don't want a big radiator that's too effective in cooling. I got a 19 x 22" x 1.5" thick Howe aluminum radiator on the blue racecar and my temps are too low in the fall and winter. I have to put three strips of duct tape over the top of the radiator to block flow and warm water up to 180*F.

!!!!On the other hand, my radiator will prevent water getting hot in the summer time!!!!!
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by DriveFast7
Keep in mind, you don't want a big radiator that's too effective in cooling.
Huh? Why not? Isn't the thermostat supposed to regulate the temps?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Huh? Why not? Isn't the thermostat supposed to regulate the temps?
exactly. getting a different temp thermostat should handle that.
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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exactly. getting a different temp thermostat should handle that.
So then bigger is better for radiator... Right?
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Copper is 3 1/3 more dense but is also 2 1/2 times more thermally conductive than typical aluminum.
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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I'd rather use duct tape or some other thing to block the core in the winter to have cool water in the summer.
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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I currently in need of a radiator. I have inquired about aluminum on over 12 reputable radiator shops. Prices are not bad at all but the problem is NO ONE WILL WORK ON ALUMINUM RAD if there is a problem or when it comes to rod out. Therefore, I bought a high efficiency 3 row radiator instead.

I guess service/repair is the downside.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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dont feel bad fellas, those alumi radiators dont fit correctly anyway! they might LOOK good.
THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING, COOLING THE ENGINE.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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WACKO, ur radiator does its job right? LEAVE IT ALONE!
unless ur going to IMPORT SHOWOFF.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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for the big race only aluminum radiator I have, let me put it to you this way.

70*F ambient temps, driving @ 100% on the track for twenty minutes, shifting @ 9400rpms, oil was @ 190 and water @ 145-150.

TOO EFFECIENT.

water temps should be 185-200*F

thermostat's primary use is to keep the water from flowing thru the radiator during startup. not during full tilt racing.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by DriveFast7
for the big race only aluminum radiator I have, let me put it to you this way.

70*F ambient temps, driving @ 100% on the track for twenty minutes, shifting @ 9400rpms, oil was @ 190 and water @ 145-150.

TOO EFFECIENT.

water temps should be 185-200*F

thermostat's primary use is to keep the water from flowing thru the radiator during startup. not during full tilt racing.
How big is it?

Now my main concern is the mix of metals creating corrosion, especially inside the rotor housing coolant passages.

A weight reduction would be nice too.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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I wouldn't go with an aluminum radiator for the RX-7's because they require the use of plastic end tanks, which almost always end up cracking and leaking. Once you have a leak, nobody will work on them to reseal end tanks, and a replacement is more expensive than the standard brass radiator.

On my Q45, the replacement was $230 to replace the stock radiator, and that was discount (dealer wanted over $500 for installation and part!).

Stick with what was designed unless you're trying to build a show car. Someone here has used an E-fan as a pusher in front of the radiator, which presents a very clean appearance in the engine bay - all you see is the radiator core as a flat plate in front of the engine. HTH,
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