rx7 smokey

i have a 1st gen rx7, and noticed some have a sick wide body does anyone kniw who prduces this or do anyone have a direct link?

OneRotor

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Dan_s_young

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Mariahmotorsports.com, Blackdragonauto.com

rbf41182gt

i think everybody's first post was about wheels or body kits.

i know mine was

Cthulhu Cultist

Mine was a 'What the hell is wrong with my car!?' post...I forget what the problem was but everyone said it was normal.

Naegleria_Fowleri

Mine was about the jdm 12at, I believe. Can't really remember, its been quite a while.

OnlyOnThurs

I still want a 12AT!!

Naegleria_Fowleri

You and I both, but I am going to go with a home built one. At least then I won't have to worry about one of the smallest turbochargers ever made.

And aside from that, if we both had 12at's then I'd definitely have to drive my FB to Texas for a cruise since our cars would be so similar. Speaking of which, plans did fall through and I'm not going to be going to Texas afterall.

tigermack

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My first post was "I got my FB a week ago..." I put pictures in and all...

Naegleria_Fowleri

Yeah it was definitely hijacked, but who can blame us? I mean we see this same question every week.

And I still don't think I have posted very many pictures of either one of my FB's up, and really don't know if I ever will. Eh oh well. The one in my avatar is good enough. And the inside of my car with my nephew in it were enough.

trochoid

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I would say, 'Asked an answered in the first response', the rest is polite conversation and post count.

Btw, welcome to the forum.

clean85owner

My first post was about the purple widebody Porsche-kitted FB.

I got harrassed pretty bad. Heh.

ApG Spaz

mine was about buying my 1st gen

DriftFB

Ah, dang, my first post was about wheels and tires also. It only took me a year to find them and the 1/2 a year to get them mounted.

blwfly

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just search bodykit ti will come up with plenty

my first thread was
'modifications where do i start'

i got alot good ideas...
and have followed what was suggested

PaulFitzwarryne

Sound judgement. The 1985 12A Turbo efi GT-X was by far the best Gen 1 made, performance was top speed 145mph, 15.3 second 1/4 mile and 28mpg.

I have a 12AT with a few mods in my convertible which on 'stock' turbo puts out 220 rwhp@12psi as a daily driver. Currently about to drop a more modified 12AT into my wife's 85, going for 300rwhp which is not too bad for a shopping cart! Who needs a cast-off engine from a gen II.

As for body kits, they belong in the ricer division. A front air dam perhaps for 120+mph to prevent the steering getting light. Otherwise why make the clean lines of the Gen 1 look pregnant? The greatest impact of a body kit is to add weight and increase fuel consumption. If you want a ricer look just add racing numbers to the side, they are cheap, light, and don't add to drag.

Dan_s_young

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Ummmm you forgot the most important reason for a body kit.... HUGE *** tires, how else are you going to fit 315's/335's on a RX-7? How ricer is it to try and get some HUGE power to the ground? I dunno, I can see where you are coming from with some kits, but saying they don't serve a function is kinda crazy...

Very honestly im not very concerned with the "added drag" my car is going to have with the widebody kit, especially when it can get good traction with 400 rwhp....

85rotarypower

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read on the forums. The fact that you don't think a body kit looks good is you opinion, but when you try to bring flawed fact into the picture, thats just dumb. Most body kits will hardly add any weight or affect the aerodynamics enough to hurt your gas mileage. I'm sorry to say it, but thats something that should never have been brought up, and your an *** for bringing it up. I am actually sick and tired of hearing about things like this. If your going for an all out race car, then sure 5 lb can make a big difference, but on a street car, 5 lb might as well be 5 ounces. As far as drag goes, at regular road speeds the difference in drag would not be noticed.

On a more serious note, there are only 2 companies currently making widebody kits. If you read the black dragon site, the kit they have is actually for the SA and probably has to be modified to fit an FB.

Dan_s_young

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I have the kit that black dragon auto has on my GSL-SE, I didn't do all the body work myself.... But I dunno why it would make a difference SA or FB, I know I have the option to run either the FB/SA bumpers, thats why im using SA up front FB in the rear. Either way it takes a ton of work to put the kit on properly, and thats why I bought the car as a rolling chassis with the body work professionally done...

trochoid

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Well when you get done pulling your foot out of your mouth, I'll tell you a couple of things.

1. PaulFitzwarryne is dead on, on his comments that body kits add weight and drag, I know, I have one and installed it myself. Even the front fiberglass fenders are as heavy/heavier as the stock steel, by the time fitting, stiffening, and smoothing is done. I've read estimates that I will need 30 more hp for the 1/4 mile to overcome the drag the wider fenders cause. Espcially the front ones.

2. He has also been into rotarys longer than you have probably been on planet and has kept the 1st gen forum well versed with his vast knowledge of rotarys and thier history.

Btw, he is a young 75, and would probably be quite happy to had you your *** anytime you pulled up next to him.

rotaryxperamental

Ironic thing, the first I ever saw of 1st gen kits was the purple FB, then I came across Steve's red/black monster.


My first post was of me about to buy an 87 RX..... Now I own three 1st gens.

Naegleria_Fowleri

I dislike bodykits myself. Would I put on a front air dam? Yes if I were going to do high speeds like Paul said, but other than that no way. Wide bodies do add a lot more weight than you think they do if they are molded properly (rather than just bolted on), and either way it is more weight. Plus the drag is thus increased a lot more. Regardless of how you look into it it effects everything in a negative amount. I bet that a widebody kit is going to add more than five pounds, by the way.

Anyway, moral of the story is that widebodies really do nothing good, unless you absolutely need those 315/335's on your car. And if you need that big of tires, then how much power are you pushing?

PaulFitzwarryne

I agree that if there is a need for wide tires then anything beyond 205s need bodywork modifications. When we raced in Europe in the early 80s with 12A PP of 300hp, 205 slicks were effective except in the Le Mans car. In Australia people, like Moffart, went slightly larger at 225 which needed bolt-on flares as SelectMaz still make. In the USA with the IMSA 13B set-up you needed something with more grip so the widebody shape came in around 1980. For that style of racing it's functional, especially on an oval track. One reason they went wide was the poor performance of racing tires then available in the US.

The case of a street car is different. My knowledge is limited as the most powerful Gen 1 I have driven was only 420rwhp. The 17 205/50 street tires were adequate for anything except a full rev drop start, which is not my normal technique for daily driving. There is a trend to fatter tires, the Boxster S now uses 235/40 and265/40s for only 250rwhp. I am not certain if it's for looks or performance. But you certainly need power steering.

I admit I love the clean Gen 1 shape; mine performs and handles better than my son's Boxster so there is no need for a body kit. However if you are using your RX-7 where 335 tires are necessary, then I support your choice of a widebody.

kleinke

Not necessarily true. 225 will fit in Rear without bodywork modification, and 225 will fit in Front with modification to inside fenderwell, such as David Lane's car has.

Dan_s_young

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One example I can think of is Directfreak, in one of his videos I was watching he couldn't get traction at all in first and second with the 225 drag radials he was running. I just have always thought it would be awesome to get power like that to the ground. So thats what im building my car up to do.

But I couldn't agree more that adding a huge wing and body kit for the visual look is kinda lame... I dunno you see way to many over done crappy looking cars around now-a-days...