wow, nice car! Love the colors of the car/wheels.

are your front wheels 15x8? thanks

Thanks for posting that. Very helpful. I was using it to help me figure out tire sizes.

Yep 15X8 all around. They are just cheapy XXR 501.

I bought them off a guys LS1 Miata. $400 and they came with newish road racing tires.

Thanks for the compliments!

Thanks for the info HadaGSL-SE, I was planning on stretching 195/50 tyres on them so hopefully it works out ok and ill post a pic once i have bought them and fitted them at a later date. hopefully not much changes with an 79 sa22c model with the exception of the bolt pattern!:)

EDIT: I also just spied your sa22c in the background, would it be much of a hassle to test fit one of your 15x8 wheels on the front and take a photo for me??? i can even pay you $10 via bank transfer if you wish?

I would do it free of charge but in the good old USA, all non GSL-SE (my blue car) are 4X110 bolt pattern. The GSL-SE's are 4X114.3. These rims are dual pattern 4X114.3 and 4X100.

I could mock fit one since the 4x110 have studs rather than bolts. I will try to get to that this weekend and post pictures.

Yeah mate mock fit was all i meant sorry! that would be so great if you could. and on a side note, your SE looks mint!

On non gsl-se models you can actually run a lower offset which is a good thing (fatter lip). A wheel that sticks out on an se might fit perfect on a non se :)

I like the sound of that! the ones i am looking at have a 3"
lip so they should look the part on the seven if all goes well. thanks for the tip!

Hey mate, did you get a chance to test one of your rims on your SA22C?
I'm still keen to see if they fit.:)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Photo-0068.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Photo-0069.jpg

these (17x10 with 235's) +22 iirc rub a little on the inside of the chassis.

needs flares to make it really cool

notveryhappyjack,

is that a 5 lug conversion? what are the offsets on your wheels (front/back)? do you have spacers on at all? i want the same look on my FB. looking into the maximum backspacing front/back that i can run on my GSL-SE. thanks.

Ok I mock fitted the XXR 501 15X8 +15 on my stock 1979.

Doesn't look like it will fit well. Barely clears the strut tower and still would stick out of the fender. I jacked the car up took the wheel off then jacked up the suspension until it was supporting the weight of the car and had my friend hold the wheel flush to the hub. Here are the photos.

HadaGSL-SE that is one very gorgeous SA! What are your plans for her?

Thank you!

She should be staying stock. Maybe a Sterling carb and the RB Exhaust I already have. That should be it.

If you look at my sig I have enough other toys. You can see the GSL-SE in the background or earlier in the thread.

Then there is the V8 Volvo and V8 Miata pictured below.

Thanks so much for doing that mate! I really appreciate it.

do you think a better fit would be +20 with a 195 wide tyre? or would that still be pushing it?

I would think that 20mm would be bringing it in further and it would contact the strut tower.

I am no wheel fitment expert. I bought these rims b/c I saw one other GSL-SE that had them and asked the guy if he had any issues.

Thats ok. thanks a lot for your help and going out of your way for that the other day. :)

sorry to threadjack but.......

I have 17 x 8 +35 front and 17 x 9 +35 rear going in my SA. they came off of a turboII and I am doing the 5 lug conversion. I am not worried about sticking out as much as rubbing on inside. anyone think I will rub? I am thinking 45-50 series tires.

I saw these for sale, thought someone might be interested. I am not affiliated with this seller in any way. If I was to make an offer on them, I would offer 350 for one pair. 400 tops is what I would pay for one pair of autobahns, and you can easily find some at that price if you keep your eyes out. These suckers can be polished up really NICE. This offset might stick out just a bit.

http://forums.club4ag.com/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=81553

Based on the following response, I would say it won't fit, it will rub on the inside as your wheels will sit inside even more due to the higher offset...... Now let's please try to keep this thread to stock fendered se's as these gsl-se offset threads always get confusing when people start comparing wide bodies/flares/non-se's ect. Thanks :)

thanks for the response. I had no idea there was a difference in the models. From your quote and a calculator I got it figured out now on what I need to do next. thank you.

kinda like dream36realms said except i was looking at some 16x7 and 16x8 with 37mm offset on my -se, they're comming off a s13 i think they should fit but im not 100% sure, might be running 245/50 out back and 205/50 out front what do you guys think?

I've got 15X7 +0 Konig Rewinds (cheap Panasport knockoffs) on my GSL-SE that stick out about as far as your wheels. Just had to roll my front fenders. Of course I'll need to put on flares since I want to lower my car more than an inch, but at stock ride height and up to an inch lower +0 offset fits fine.

OK guys, hopefully this will help someone out. I know I was doing back-flips when I tried these wheels on as they seem to fit exactly how I wanted in the back. This wheel is 16x8 +26. The outer edge of the wheel sticks out just a tad past the fender, I mean barely, so the tire should be in just a tad from there. After I roll my fenders, and use a slightly stretched tire, I am pretty sure these will work without rubbing. I'll see how many pics I can fit in this post, then I'll post more pics in the next.

16x8 +26

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...5&d=1288763069

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1288763069

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More pics 16x8 +26.

In the last pic, I ran a straight edge up along the outside of the wheel so that you can see how far past the fender the outer part of the wheel goes.

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...2&d=1288763729

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Nice. Can't wait til you add tires.

Now keep in mind, the front is another animal. Since I have a staggered set of these wheels 15x8 +26 and 15x7 +25, I was able to finally figure out the offset on my fins.

The fins on my car have about /if not the exact same backspace and lip as my 15x7 +25 mesh. So in my mind, the fins are 15x7 +25 all around.

IMO, 15x7 +25 is about the lowest offset you can go in the front without going past the fenders. I have quite abit of negative camber up front right now so it appears like there is room for a lower offset, but I think if I didn't have all that negative camber, they would sit about flush in the front. One day I will know for sure because I'm not keeping that negative camber, it's only there because my car hasn't been aligned yet.....lol

Anyways, you can use the 16x8 +26 as an example (If your gonna roll your fenders) and adjust the offset for a 7 inch wheel if you wanted the outer edge of the wheel to sit about the same with the fender as my example.

Just for kicks, I threw the 16x7 +25 on the back so you can compare how close it sits to the fender.

With 7 inchers in the back, you should use a lower offset IMO if your going for the flush look.

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...8&d=1288765405

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...9&d=1288765405

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https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...2&d=1288765405



I'm hesitant to say this but my measurements on the inside with the 8 inchers tell me that I "might" be able to squeeze a 9 incher back there if I use a higher offset to pull the wheel in more and compensate for the extra inch. I have about 1.25 inch space on the inside before hitting the closest thing which is the ebrake cable. I'll have to take better measurements on that when I have time (which will be awhile).

Thanks man, I'm afraid it might be awhile before I get the tires as time is short right now.......maybe by Sevenstock 14......lol

What brand wheels are those?

I wanted to go with 15x7s on my SE, so I should look at a 20-25mm offset?

If you want flush, I'd imagine you'll want 10-20 offset in the back with 7 inch wheels. (Based of the photos

They are SSR Reverse Mesh. They are kinda hard to find here but they seem to be available everywhere in Japan for fair prices. I actually just picked up an identical set to these, the exact same size and offsets (only with black centers). The transaction is getting finalized but they should be here in about 2 weeks. I sure don't need them but from what I have seen, 16's are abit more rare in these wheels so I grabbed them.

As far as sizing, I would say in the back of your car, 7 inchers a +13 would get you flush according to this handy offset calculator........

http://www.imadeskidmarks.com/offsetcalculator.html

I just put in the size of my rear wheel 8" +26 as the starting wheel, then threw a 7" wheel for the second wheel and experimented.

One thing you have to remember though is that with a 7" wheel, it will be harder to stretch a tire of decent size because the wheel is smaller. I would think the largest tire you could go in back would be 195 but even with that, you would be cutting it close to rubbing depending on how low your car is/ how stiff your springs are etc.

You can see with my pics, the rear wheel edge sticks just past the fender, so the tire would probably be right under the fender edge if it wasn't stretched. For this reason, you might want to go with just a tad higher offset than a +13?





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In the front for the flush look, I'm not yet sure of the close to perfect offset but for now, I'm not recommending more than a +25 on a 7" wheel. My fronts have a lot of negative camber so although the top doesn't look flush, the bottom of the wheel appears like it might be if I take out the unnecessary negative camber. I'll play with it when I get more time.


I've attached a picture to help some with the backspace vs offset confusion. This pic was taken from skidmarks website.....he's got some cool stuff on there

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...0&d=1288891555

Use an inch to mm conversion to figure out offset's

http://mdmetric.com/tech/cvtcht.htm

1" = 25.4mm

Here is an example on how to play with offset. When I did a quick measurement under the rear of my car with my 8" +26 wheels, I had about an inch and a quarter space on the inside of the wheel to the nearest rubbing point (super quick measurement only). When going from a 8" to a 9" wheel and keeping the same offset, it will add a half inch to the inside, and half inch to the outside of the wheel. So if I wanted to go from my 8" +26 wheel to a 9" wheel and have the outer lip stay at the same location relative to the fender, I would have to move that extra half of an inch on the outside, toward the center of the car. So I would want to increase my offset by .5" or 12.7mm. I would take my current offset of +26mm and add it to +12.7mm = a new offset of +38.7MM on a nine inch wheel. This should move the wheel in half of an inch, added to the other extra half an inch on the inside (due to the 9" wheel) would bring my wheel a total of 1" closer to rubbing the inside of the car. This would leave me only about 1/4 inch space before rubbing. Of course wheel makers don't make fractions of a mm when doing offsets so you would have to round one way or another.

By searching, I found that SSR currently makes some 9" wheels with a +39 offset . So now, I am trying to find some SSR Reverse mesh (or similar SSR barelled wheel) in 16x9 +39................LMAO I don't even know if they made this style of wheel in that size/offset but I'm on the hunt..........I want to see if I can actually fit a 9" wheel under a stock bodied first gen with SE suspension. I really need to spend some more time under my car... even if I get 9"ers on there, I need to make sure that there won't be tire rub issues on the upper/inner wheel well. I forgot to look at that. Either way, these 8"ers will get tires on them, then I'll see where I'm at.


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Please don't take my info as gospel, you should always do your own test fitting and measurements, that's the only way to really know as taking something from paper "should work" and actually trying it is still 2 different things. I hope the numbers I provided are accurate as it is easy for me to get off track.......especially without coffee.......lol I am in no way an expert on this (I could be mistaken), you can see the date I started this thread and at that time, I new absolutely NOTHING about offset's or backspace so I am just doing alot of searching, googling ect. And this is what I think I have learned.
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Hey so i dont mean to just pop in and ask questions but i also havea GSL-SE with stock fenders and wanted to know if i could fit a 16x8 with a 38mm offset on the front and back without rubbing? I know the stock offset is 40 so i think 38 should have it sit flush if i get the right sized tires. But i just wanted to know if i should get 16x7 with a 40mm offset or the 16x8 with a 38mm offset. Thanks. Oh and i do have lowering springs with coilovers and a camber adjuster.

I just bought a SE with 16x7 40mm offset. The front is just a bit under flush, but has to have 1/4 inch spacers to keep off of the Coil Overs. Rear is fine. Running 205/40/16's.

I am going to change these out for 15x8 with 20mm offset when the turbo install if finished.

Gino (Team_Gileto) is running a sick set-up on his SE, 16x9 on the rear... but it's not exactly a bolt-up.... :icon_tup:


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/...e6583047_b.jpg


-Bern