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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Weight reduction, The, " What can be removed" game

alright. so ive been looking around my engine bay at all the stuff thats adding weight. i plan on getting a electric fan, ditching a/c and removing all emissions **** from my engine

anything else i should add to my list? and if so how do i go about removing it and what parts do i need to do so.

also if you live in NC your more than welcomed to come help
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Strip your carb.

You're on the right track though.

Emmissions consist of:
Rats nest
EGR/Air pump
ACV Valve

You can go pre-mix as well if you remove your oil pump.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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try a s4 front mount oil cooler, relocate the battery to one of the bins in the car, and full carb emissions removal with the Racing Beat intake.

Here's mine after i did a motor swap. I cleaned it up with some semi-flat paint.


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Old May 26, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Experiment.Seven
Strip your carb.

You're on the right track though.

Emmissions consist of:
Rats nest
EGR/Air pump
ACV Valve

You can go pre-mix as well if you remove your oil pump.
Do not, I repeat, DO NOT remove the oil pump. What he means is to remove the oil metering pump and run premix. Also an SA intake would work well since it doesn't have any of the extra crap on it. If you get a header, it will save weight and add some extra power.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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i went ahead and cut out the skeleton of my hood. i also let the cruise control go too.

my own opinion on the efan is dont do it. atleast for me it didnt help. im usuing a taurus efan with the low setting. when it turns on it draws too many amps even w/ my s5 alt. just my .02
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Old May 26, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=weight
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Old May 27, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Sorry about that. *doh*

- Remove the oil metering pump. (OMP)


Good catch FirebirdSlayer666. lol
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:24 AM
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i went ahead and cut out the skeleton of my hood. i also let the cruise control go too.

my own opinion on the efan is dont do it. atleast for me it didnt help. im usuing a taurus efan with the low setting. when it turns on it draws too many amps even w/ my s5 alt. just my .02
Check your grounds. Even with the lower output s4 (even the stock alternator I had) I noticed barely any dip in alternator output.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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replace that cast iron stock exhaust manifold with a racing beat manifold, dump the cat converter and air pump too, and the cast iron exhaust pipe between the cat and manifold
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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i think what is funny is that the stock fan and clutch assembly usually weights less than most peoples electric fans they put in. Plus the stock fan with shroud cools very well.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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stock fan is horribly loud in the windy area, it also seems to suck a lot energy in the low rpms. The electric fans do not utilize the shroud and leave out the oil coolers center area unless sorta split between. I have gone to a smaller diameter electric fan (close to the stock fans diameter) and modified the stock shroud to encompass the fan, so far no problems and at the moment its effective enough. Waiting for the 100degree heatsoaked days to be sure.

Remove the rust, when rust gets wet it gains weight!
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Old May 27, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Where are you at in NC?

Any pics of your car?


Remove all of the AC ever under the dash.

Spare tire.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Sub zero start assist, if you have it.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Just start pulling parts, don't be a baby.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hades12
Where are you at in NC?

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Remove all of the AC ever under the dash.

Spare tire.
Im in Salisbury, like 30min from Charlotte. Id rather not remove all the **** from under the dash because if i wanna put AC back on sometime ill not have to crawl up under there. being 6 foot 3 its not a easy task

but for starters subzero is being taken out now, just in here checking out the forums. Will my car run the same if i just take the belts off the AC and airpump and put on the lawnmower belt like in the tut for removing the rats nest? Ill be pulling the pumps and such off but not until i get all the hoses and such, but i wouldn't mind getting the belt on already if it wont hurt
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by littleredrotary
Im in Salisbury, like 30min from Charlotte. Id rather not remove all the **** from under the dash because if i wanna put AC back on sometime ill not have to crawl up under there. being 6 foot 3 its not a easy task

but for starters subzero is being taken out now, just in here checking out the forums. Will my car run the same if i just take the belts off the AC and airpump and put on the lawnmower belt like in the tut for removing the rats nest? Ill be pulling the pumps and such off but not until i get all the hoses and such, but i wouldn't mind getting the belt on already if it wont hurt
Everything will work as usual. If you take the belts off you are removing parasitic loss, but still have the weight. I took the compressor and evaporator off my car and left everything else off (yes, I took off the lines as well)

I also run the lawnmower belt.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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lawnmower belt?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeezus
Everything will work as usual. If you take the belts off you are removing parasitic loss, but still have the weight. I took the compressor and evaporator off my car and left everything else off (yes, I took off the lines as well)

I also run the lawnmower belt.
jeezus i was waiting on you to respond lol. how much did the belt cost you?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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the lawnmower belt is the same thing as the pinapple racing yoohoo belt. just a shorter belt to run from the e-pulley to the waterpump. I think they are under $15 around here number 3L220. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/3L220
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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Removal of all the emissions bs removes a lot of the weight. Adding a header pulls even more out. Lots of cast iron in the stock exhaust.

Only other thing I can add is that you can use a 2nd gen water pump housing to replace the cast iron one. I also got an aluminum water pump to go with it. That stock bitch was HEAVY!!!

Woodonastick: What was involved with pulling the skeleton out of the hood. How much weight to you figure you shaved off? I was considering this, but didn't know where to start. Thanks...
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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theres pictures of what im working on. got her for 2300$ after my kia got rearended.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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how did you make the lazy eye headlight look? did u unhool it and manually make em be right there or do they open to that??

how does that work with your high/low beams?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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they are unhooked right now. i dont drive much at night
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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well just ordered my yoohoo belt
gotta get it tomorrow morning
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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The only problem with removing the air pump is if you still have a cat that has the air pipe hooked to it, it will burn up. Of course you could get carbon fiber parts from Fibermaz to lighten things up even more
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