Pele

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Okay. We're all lookin for power. Some want 13BTurbos, Some want Superchargers, some want *shudder* boingers...

I want something different.

A 12A turbo sounds nice.

Did they use the same tranny in the Japan/Aus 12A turbos as they did in the US GSL-SE and such?

Here's what I'd like to do...

I'd like to Yaw my carb and street port the engine. Set it up as an intercooled, blow through. Run low boost, high compression.

If the same tranny's were used in the real 12A turbos, I shouldn't have to deal with cutting holes for new shifters. With the carb, I wouldn't have to deal with running new high pressure fuel lines, just use a high volume, low pressure pump.

Only problem I think I'd have is finding a header that'd hook to a turbo.

It's just an idea, but I'm probably talking outta my ***.

jr69187

get mad. get mean. get supercharged. Soon i will let loose the evil creation by this summer i should have my bridge port 12 with super charger and open headers on the dyno. i am expection some high numbers and power band to beat all just got the yaw carb and it is alreayd set up for the volume of air i will be pulling through my carb. Adn in my mind screw blow through set ups. I just don't like them and why use a turbo just more heat. If mine works out right i can seell the intake for 200 bucks and you can just bolt on the eaton put a whol in the hood and go get some hondas to add to your trophy room.

dan

Pele

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I have to have a blow through setup.. A suck through wont' let you have an intercooler cause the gas condenses inside and BOOM!

The heat will be dealt with by the intercooler.

The turbo is just cause I wanna be able to adjust the boost without changing pulleys and cause they never brought a turbo'ed 1st gen tot he states, but shoulda.

Felix Wankel

You'll need to have the Yaw specially modified to work as a blow through.

Get a tubular manifold made and put a 60-1 HiFi on it.



I'll race any supercharged RX-7 in my TII and show it whats up

jr69187

hye feelix see ya this summer whats up is you in my rear view.

dan

rx7passion

hey have fun with carbs. once efi is set and good to go theres not much to worry about and priming your carb to start, just turn the key and vroom. turbo's are nice too just add boost controller and adjust how much more power you want if its tuned. ps ill race any carb powered rx7 anyday

jr69187

so if i beat a modirator does that mean they will make me one?? Proballly not due to my spelling.

dan

rx7passion

haha nice try but no. 20$ freindly wager maybe

FuLLsMoKe

My wallet is a bit thin and restricted right now... How much would you think a (good and not to pricey) turbo upgrade would be?

Pele

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Didn't a turboed, carbed 12A beat a 3rd gen one time?

There was a video... and the 3rd gen driver misshifted.. And the 1st gen is a street car... and something something... Big RX-7 meet... I dunno... I only remember vague details for this one...

FuLLsMoKe

Only once?

3rd Gens are fast as crap...

jr69187

3rd gens are not as fast as you may think. Or then again they may be fast than i think. Who knows but by fall i should be able to post some videos of the seven sc

dan

mar3

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Go to the quarter mile thread and see how fast the FD's are. Most of those nuts have got money to burn and toss out the stock stuff for giant single Garretts on rocket boost so they run 11 sec quarters on their damn STREET tires. For pele,---->the thread is gone now, but some "bloke" from Australia cranked out 406(?) REAR WHEEL horsepower which comes out to about 470 horseys at the flywheel with a turbo'd 12A. A supercharged mouse motor with a mild cam is about the same but with 4.6 L more displacement. A recent article in the despised Hot Rod had a single turbo 5.0 crank out something north of 500 horsepower at the flywheel. Hopefully, somebody will video that turbo vs. SC shootout if it ever happens.....;)

jr69187

by this fall mine should be tuned in and rocking out some solid numbers. I just have to elave monday for about 4 months but when i get back i will have enough money to be a serous threat to those damn turbos.

dan

Pele

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Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to toast 3rd gens. ALthought at would be a nice perk.

I'm just trying to waste mildly modded 5.0's, Turboed street Hondas, maybe a stock Type R.

When I wanna waste supercars, I'll build a T2 first gen. Right now, this is the best condition shell I know of, so I'd like to cut it up as little as possible. (Says little for the shells I've seen around here as mine has severe rust in the wheel wells.)

I'll build a T2 1st gen when I get two shells and weld em together.

setzep

How much HP do you plan on making with that supercharger junior? And to that turbo = more heat than a supercharger remark, pure comedy! Turbo is where it's at with a rotary, all that strong exhaust energy is a shame to waste.

MIKE-P-29

I have been pondering this same question... I heard that 12A turbos are hard as hell to find and when you find a used one its probally already shot... Id like to do a turbo on my 12A, but if I cant get the parts and/or I have to search 10 parts of the globe to get them then Im kinda wasting my time.

Does someone make an aftermarket turbo that will work on a streetported 12a? Maybe a whole kit?

I do see one advantage of the supercharger setup...Being able to buy the whole thing in one kit and bam your done... Or maybe Im wrong.. Maybe theres a whole turbo kit somewhere, like maybe a Greddy?

yayarx7

You fellas looking to turbo a 12a, check out this site:

http://www.mazdaracing.com/

They have all sorts of turbo cars. They say their 12a turbo street car beat Ari's 3rd gen at last years IDRC season opener.

MIKE-P-28

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taken from http://www.mazdaracing.com

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MIKE-P-29

This is funny, LOL taken from the same site

WE DO NOT WORK ON PISTON ENGINES, PLEASE, NO PISTON ENGINE RELATED EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS

Pele

iTrader: (28)

That's what I'm talkin about! Their 1st gen is a light color.. TBM, I think and Ari's 3rd gen was VR. That's them.

I'd like to use a Turbo 12A and carb system cause I'd like to be able to return it to showroom stock merely with a free weekend or two and some wrenches.

These cars are never gonna be built again and as the years go on, there'll be more and more in wrecks and rusting out somewhere...

I'd like to have a nice stock 1st gen in a glass cube when I'm old and grey... speeding around in my Hydrogen fueled RX-12. I'd drive the 7 every weekend, nice and hard to fight off all that carbon, have fun with it. Then put it back in the cube. And pump out all the oxygen. Stock every wear item on that car in a closet somewhere. Hand it down as a family heirloom.

Or maybe if I'm rich and powerful or sometihng, I'll build a racetrack and name it after Felix Wankel... Not the guy on this forum. but the real guy... And have rotary vehicles in the visitor's center.. kinda like a museum. And some dismantled wankel engines with explanations and stuff. So people won't be so rotarded. And a garage out back... Stocked with every tool except for Cylinder hones, valve spring and piston ring compressors or expanders. A sing hainging saying NO PISTONS ALLOWED! We'll race em on the track, but we won't work on em.

I need to put the weed away.

MIKE-P-28

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Felix Wankel

I bought my 45 DCOE from mazdaracing.com. All I can say is **** THEM!! They have the shittiest service I've ever seen. Not only was the carb 3 weeks late, I had no hardware, the box was beat to hell and back, and the intake manifold looks like it was made by a 5 year old. I called to complain and they told me they would send some harware and a tshirt right out to me. This was 6 months ago, and I didn't get **** from them.

So www.mazdaracing.com (Even if their car is the same color as mine)...

MIKE-P-28

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Damn that sucks... Sorry to hear that, I guess we wont be buying anything from them then Any other suggestions...

Sterling

This is for Felix...

...Yeah, it's me...on a turbo thread!
Just wanted to appologize for boy jr, there; blurting out, "Getta supercharger, dude!".

...Ya know how I hate it when guys do that to me about a turbo. Well, just wanted you to know I see it works both ways!