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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Toyo Proxes RA-1

just slapped these on my 1st gen. mine dont have the treads.. anyone know if these are gonna be a hassle to drive in wet conditions?
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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NO tread at all? Yeah, those won't be great in rain.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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without tread it is no joke when I say the car will be worse then driving on ice. I bet you could hydroplane with those going 15mph if they honestly dont have tread
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Full tread RA-1's are basically a rain tire. Once the tread is gone, they are dry weather only. Now, if they are not too old, the chemical grip will still be great in the rain provided you don't go fast enough to hydroplain. I drove on Hoosiers for several weeks and was fine as long as I kept it under 60. Just be carful.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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the tires are old and have 10% left.. dry pavement they will be fine... wet = death to your seven!!!!
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:47 AM
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Let's put it this way, it would be like waxing your snow skis.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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the tires are old and have 10% left.. dry pavement they will be fine... wet = death to your seven!!!!
welcome to the rx7 club!!!

death to my seven.. more like death to me. already spun out once :P
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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You're new, we're more worried about the 7 at this point thanwe are about you.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbz
just slapped these on my 1st gen. mine dont have the treads.. anyone know if these are gonna be a hassle to drive in wet conditions?
Dude Toyo RA-1's are track tires that are barely DOT legal. . . . . track tires. . . . optimized for dry surface. . . .

and you stated that yours does have the treads, and will it work on wet conditions. . . . . will a regular street tire with no tread, that ops at low temperature work well in the rain where the rain water coolrs the rubber? Think of the RA-1, that needs to be heat cycled for its optimum performance traction.

Seriously.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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wow, trochoid tells it like it is and redr1 makes a post in here... and surprisingly it dosnt involves teh buttseks.

but yeah, get some falken ziex or something, dont wreck your 7
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Yo Thats very dangerous when on wet if there's no tread. But on dry you should be o-kay. Just drive slow and no quick accelleration. You should be cool but know this, you will have to drive it, so pay a lot of attention on what she's telling you.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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By the way hello Y'all Im new to this forum too.
Name's mike and I have an fc. '86 her name is Ashlee. I dont leave home without her.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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for lack of examples, NASCAR cars have no tread. they dont dare race if water even touches the track.
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As far as tires in racing venues go, you will notice that they have both wet and dry tires on hand. Each of which have different compunds ranging from hard to soft, depending on temps, both ambient and track surface. They usually have 3 compunds of the drys and 2 of the wets, depending on what the sactioning body allows.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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wow, trochoid tells it like it is
Facts is facts and the truth can be harsh some days. I've seen too many newbs in the last year or so that think they can jump in thier newly aquired 7 and be Speed Racer, without considering what it really takes to make thier car perform and handle safely. So yeah, when it comes to the newbs, I care more about saving a 7 than them. If they want to be stupid, they deserve the consequences, the 7 does not.

Cbz, nothing personal, don't you yet, but we will do our best to keep you and your 7 safe.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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speed racer? damnit. my mach 5 steering wheel still hasnt shipped yet. guess thats what i get for trusting guys named spritle and chim-chim. shoulda known something was fishy when they said theyd take payment in candy, rather than paypal.

thanks for shooting down my dream, trochoid.
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Facts is facts and the truth can be harsh some days. I've seen too many newbs in the last year or so that think they can jump in thier newly aquired 7 and be Speed Racer, without considering what it really takes to make thier car perform and handle safely. So yeah, when it comes to the newbs, I care more about saving a 7 than them. If they want to be stupid, they deserve the consequences, the 7 does not.

Cbz, nothing personal, don't you yet, but we will do our best to keep you and your 7 safe.
i'm well aware of what i was getting into when i put them on, the main reason they were there in the first place is because they were purchased off of someone for $500 that came with a set of nice rims so basically in the end.. the tires came free. i already went today and swapped out those tires for other ones that will be fine for normal everyday driving. and yea i'm not taking any of this personally, this is my step-dad's car that he's had pretty much all of his life. he's never really done anything to it besides repair it when things went wrong. i'm looking to work with my buddy Robert from RotaryShack to improve it and make it into something even greater then it already is, being a 7 that is. so yea, if you ever do have suggestions or comments for me, please feel free to speak up about it. i'm sure you would anyways
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RedR1
Think of the RA-1, that needs to be heat cycled for its optimum performance traction.
While that's true of most R compounds, the RA-1 might be the most heat cycle resistant R compound that exists. An original heat cycle when a set is new might help a bit, but not as much as for many other race tires.

And Cbz, those tires would probably be amazing in the dry if you get a chance to put them back on. Just don't run them when cords are showing.
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While that's true of most R compounds, the RA-1 might be the most heat cycle resistant R compound that exists. An original heat cycle when a set is new might help a bit, but not as much as for many other race tires.

And Cbz, those tires would probably be amazing in the dry if you get a chance to put them back on. Just don't run them when cords are showing.

yea definately, most of the reviews i've read about the tires say that they run great on the tracks and especially in the dry. so i'd love to put them on in the summer. "great performance isn't much without great tires" right?
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Trust me, I speak my mind, lol. I have a set of Hoosier autocross tires that are pretty much slicks, one even has cord showing on an edge. I went to the 1/8 mile track a few years ago to test them against stock tires and wheels. Even with the Hoosier's being 225/45/13, the ets were slower with them. Corners were fun though.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Trust me, I speak my mind, lol. I have a set of Hoosier autocross tires that are pretty much slicks, one even has cord showing on an edge. I went to the 1/8 mile track a few years ago to test them against stock tires and wheels. Even with the Hoosier's being 225/45/13, the ets were slower with them. Corners were fun though.

yea I can definately agree with you on that.. i took the toyos for a spin and tried to hit some corners good, was great.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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this thread is useless without pics!! lets see some pice of your seven man!!!
im gonna go eat some cheese now
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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toyo ra1 are the greatest....
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this thread is useless without pics!! lets see some pice of your seven man!!!
im gonna go eat some cheese now

alright i'll grab some pics.
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