Throttle Issue
04-18-11, 12:34 PM
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I know you keep saying that timing is perfect, but there are a lot of things that can go wrong and screw it up.
Was the idle at or below 800 when you set the timing?
When you checked the leading timing, are you positive it was the leading timing mark on the pulley that it was set to?
Are you positive that the pulley is in the correct position, so that your markings are correct?
If the timing light has an advance **** on it, was it set to zero at the time?
I don't know, but ever since you checked the jets and found them clear, I'm thinking this is ignition related....
Was the idle at or below 800 when you set the timing?
When you checked the leading timing, are you positive it was the leading timing mark on the pulley that it was set to?
Are you positive that the pulley is in the correct position, so that your markings are correct?
If the timing light has an advance **** on it, was it set to zero at the time?
I don't know, but ever since you checked the jets and found them clear, I'm thinking this is ignition related....
04-18-11, 09:27 PM
#53
the timing was checked at idle...which was about 770 rpm. the marks, I re colored with paint markers and checked the proper ones. I cant see the pulley being out of whack but i guess its possible.
One other thing to throw in the mix is that I do have a small (no noise due to it) exhaust leak by the manifold which from time to time I get a tiny bit of smoke when I turn the car off....or return to idle after going on the highway for example. terrible smell...something maybe like unburnt fuel burning off in the manifold right by the leak, and the fumes escape at the leak. ORRRR maybe its from a plugged up cat. Im not sure, but I dont think it helps my case any
One other thing to throw in the mix is that I do have a small (no noise due to it) exhaust leak by the manifold which from time to time I get a tiny bit of smoke when I turn the car off....or return to idle after going on the highway for example. terrible smell...something maybe like unburnt fuel burning off in the manifold right by the leak, and the fumes escape at the leak. ORRRR maybe its from a plugged up cat. Im not sure, but I dont think it helps my case any
04-18-11, 10:42 PM
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Could it be a leak from your carb, that is dripping on the hot manifold? That could be, um, bad... 
I don't recall now, but was this thing running fine, and then it wasn't? Or has it never run right since you got it?
Because I'm still wondering if your pulley is positioned wrong, in which case you might want to check the Archive for the thread on how to determine top dead center. If the car has never run right, then I would probably do that next.
I don't recall now, but was this thing running fine, and then it wasn't? Or has it never run right since you got it?
Because I'm still wondering if your pulley is positioned wrong, in which case you might want to check the Archive for the thread on how to determine top dead center. If the car has never run right, then I would probably do that next.
04-19-11, 07:50 AM
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I will say Lizard has a good point. Although, I had the exact same problem with mine and found out the secondary linkage was frozen and was stopping the primary from opening fully. The combination of the two created no power and it would not rev past 5000 RPM's. I thought the engine was blown but after rebuilding the carb and breaking loose the seconday butterflies, she went all the way to redline.
Another cause is having the leading and trailing coils mixed up. Meaning the wires are going to the wrong coils. Your car will idle this way but sure as hell won't run very well.
Another cause is having the leading and trailing coils mixed up. Meaning the wires are going to the wrong coils. Your car will idle this way but sure as hell won't run very well.
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04-19-11, 08:42 AM
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04-19-11, 06:50 PM
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Well while i was out there i determoned that its oil getting onto the manifold causing what i see as an exhaust leak, but this may have been caused by the back pressure. Hooked the secondaries up...and i got to about 6700 rpm but it stumbled once i used the secondaries. Definitly a plugged passageway in the carb for the secondaries.
04-24-11, 12:48 AM
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Well. After weeks and even months of speculation...I have the results. (gasoline WAS causing the smoke on the manifold...good call Kentetsu!)
Rebuilt/tuned carb. 1/2 bottle MMO (marvel mystery oil). Several cans of seafoam (although I think MMO did the trick). AND removal of emissions along with the addition of mechanical secondaries. O yeah, 2 fuel filters, both new
All of this has turned my very sluggish and will not rev over 5k RX7 into a new machine! Can easily hit 8k rpms now, and wow what throttle response. Thanks to all that helped, and to all that were rooting for me haha
Rebuilt/tuned carb. 1/2 bottle MMO (marvel mystery oil). Several cans of seafoam (although I think MMO did the trick). AND removal of emissions along with the addition of mechanical secondaries. O yeah, 2 fuel filters, both new
All of this has turned my very sluggish and will not rev over 5k RX7 into a new machine! Can easily hit 8k rpms now, and wow what throttle response. Thanks to all that helped, and to all that were rooting for me haha
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