The_7

i know this should be in another forum but oh well........

i was messing around online and i was looking up specs for different cars. i looked up the new v6 240hp accord and i reconized the bore and stroke from a supra engine...so i pulled up the n/a supra specs and sure enough, they are VERY close to each other...

2003 Accord V6 VTEC 1998 Supra

displacement 3L 3L
cylinders 6 6
borexstroke 3.39x3.39 3.39x3.39
comp.ratio 10 10
valves 24 24
fuel induction MFI EFI
valve train SOHC DOHC

HP 240@6450rpm 225@6000rpm
Torque 212@5000rpm 220@4000rpm

as you can see the 2 engines are very similar and put out similar power & torque ratings....kinda weird that a sports car and a family sedan have almost the same engine

anthrax

Ya but the Accord is gonna way alot more, and appeal to a wider group of people.

See you are gonna get all the sensable car drivers that wan't a sporty feel. Becides it seems everything these days are coming with bigger engins

MosesX605

The Accord has a V6.

The Supra has an inline 6.

Not similar at all.

The_7

i know the accord weighs more i was just talking about the engine. yea the configuration is different but the bore, stroke, cr, #valves, and displacement are the same and the power ratings are pretty close. i would say that is similar

fatboy7

I6 vs V6 is a big difference.... interesting triva though.

The_7

whats the main differences between inline and v?

wwilliam54

evey single part

enigma32

Inline engines have all the cylinders (you guessed it!) in line with each other.
V has them in a sort of V shape =)

The_7

well yea i knew that lol....i was wondering performance wise...cause when i said the supra and accordv6 engines were similar they said inline and v6 are a pig difference. any differences besides the position of the cylinders?

The_7

haha *big* difference not pig .

wwilliam54

The_7

Oh......Sorry, I'm retarded .

FuLLsMoKe

The configuration of the V engine allows you to put the center of mass of the engine closer to the middle of the car (since it is shorter), allowing for better handling (i think they call this front-midship?)... Also, I would guess that the shorter shaft in the V engine means less bending and twisting, yielding less power loss to the wheels (but this is probably very insignificant).

The_7

so the 2 engines ARE pretty similar aside from cylinder positioning. the main advantages of the supras engine are the electronic fuel injection and the dual overhead cams.

coldy13

In 1998(like he posted) the Supra had a V6. The older Supras did have a L6, but once they switched to the newest body style(in 1993), from then on they all had V6's.

Swolbynos

Just rode in a friends '93 10 second supra and it is a straight 6

Sk8r_dude

supras are pretty sweet, but the rex is still better. i smoked my friends supra.

jutny

nah man... they were L6 to the end.

3mgte it was?

CHEF_EG_1

1982-1986 (Mk2) - 5M-GE (2.8L, N/A, I6)

1986.5-1989 (Mk3) - 7M-GE (3.0L, N/A, I6), 7M-GTE (3.0L, CT26 Turbo, I6)

1989.5-1992 (Mk3.5) - 1JZ-GE (3.0L, N/A, I6), 1JZ-GTE (3.0L, CT26 Turbo, I6), 1JZ-GTTE (3.0L, twin turbo, I6)

1993-1998 (Mk4) - 2JZ-GE (3.0L, N/A, VVTL-i, I6), 2JZ-GTTE (3.0L, twin turbo, VVTL-i, I6)


Part of the entire Supra lineage is that they ALWAYS had Inline 6's in them.

CHEF_EG_1

Check out www.supraforums.com


There's 32,000 members that will disagree with you to the end, and chastize you in the process.

coldy13

Damn, I could have sworn they had a V6 after '93. Oh well, thanks for setting me straight

hornbm

yeah supra's have allways had an I6 and allways will.

White84SE

You're thinking of the Datsun/Nissan Z cars... the 240-280Z's and 280ZX's all had inline 6's, but starting with the 300ZX, they went to a V6 engine arrangement... oh, another trait of the inline 6 is that it runs much smoother than a V6.. something about the timing of the cylinder firing and the harmonics of an inline 6 crankshaft...

--Danny

CHEF_EG_1

Didn't mean to come across as a dick, but I used to have an 85 Supra P-Type... I sorta knew what I had under the hood.... considering it took 3 different swaps before I was content with it, and sold it.

MosesX605

I like the P-Type Supra, it's got decent power and is a good looking car, but it just doesn't compare to the light and nimble handling of my '79. Of course, my '79 isn't hauling around more than 3000 pounds of car...

My buddy who owns an '82 Supra with a high compression Cressida motor took my '79 on a spin through the autoX course last Sunday and was blown away at the handling.