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Old 07-05-03, 05:05 PM
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Shutter valve gone and I'm dancing in the street

Ok, turns out my shutter valve is bad. I was checking it because a Mazda mechanic told me that if your car doesn't hold idle with the A/C on, it's like the valve.

So I took the big shutter valve hose off, cut it in half and filled the ends with JB weld.

She idles perfect now, no more lobing. When I click the A/C on, she idles up to 1000 rpm's perfectly smooth. (Also replaced the idle compensation mushroom with another one since the old one was sticky).

So, for now, I can't afford a new shutter valve so I am going to run with the plugged hoses.

Here's the differences:

Backfires - Gone

Hesitiation - Gone

Fluctuation in cruise/idle/mixture ratio (have lambda sensor) - Gone

Fear of taking a date out in my 7 - Gone
Old 07-05-03, 07:29 PM
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Haha right on, now to resume your regular dating schedual!

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Whats a shutter valve? is that a 12a thing?
Old 07-05-03, 09:24 PM
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the shutter valve kills the rear rotor upon deceleration to aid emissions and reduce fuel consumption.

it also sucks ***
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Anyone know if the shutter valve is specific to a carburated rotary? I mean, I guess that would limit them to just 12a's, but you can always put injection on one....

Just curious.
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Ya it's specific to carbureted. The FI's can turn the 2nd set of injectors on and off at will so they don't need it.

So we'll see how my mileage is now. I don't know why they felt the need for that shutter valve. When I let up on the gas my primaries close anyways reducing airflow and hence Bernoulli's vacuum. Oh well, I am sure their was a reason why, just can't seem to find it
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When the shutter valve died on the 83 I put a plug in the appropriate hole in the aircleaner well. It solved the problem, but I think my gas mileage dropped noticeably.

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Originally posted by bliffle
When the shutter valve died on the 83 I put a plug in the appropriate hole in the aircleaner well. It solved the problem, but I think my gas mileage dropped noticeably.
Make sure there is no way for that plug to pop out and go down the carb.

I plugged mine and my gas mileage stayed the same. I'll bet your MPG problem is related to something else.

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Originally posted by inittab
Make sure there is no way for that plug to pop out and go down the carb.

I plugged mine and my gas mileage stayed the same. I'll bet your MPG problem is related to something else.

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I used a special plug I scrounged at the junkyard that has a protruding flange to keep it in place.

Maybe I have some fuel problems with the 83. Now, when I start it there is about 10 secs of stumbling like it's starved before it runs smoothly: hot or cold. Could it be a vacuum line problem? I don't think it's an ignition problem. So far it's just a minor annoyance.

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