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Old 07-18-05, 02:48 PM
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seen the rx7 w 400hp 5.0L?

http://www.rotarytraderonline.com/listings/l0026.html

that seems like a cool site with a LOT for sale.
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I've seen that one for sale before... might actually have even been the same ad. This was a while back, so I guess he hasn't sold it yet. And, I hate that hood.
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$20k is a lot of money... but then again... that must be one QUICK RX-7, and looks to be nicely fabricated too.
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There's a couple of V8 1st gens on that site for sale. Of course, it does begin the debate of whether they are actually still an RX-7 or just a funny car, like a Pinto or Vega or Escort or civic with a big block stuffed into it.
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wellllll.... beats the hell out of most 1st gen. rx7's here; realibly and fuel efficiently too
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I'd race it for titles
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and what give him ur car gfor the cost of gas that it took him to smoke u? sry i dont me to talk bad but it is the truth that car w/ a 5.0L v8 is quicker then any nearly stock 7 u can find including urs. evern if he put in a chevy lb9 motor or the tuned barrel injection 5.0L which he didnt it would smoke ur 7
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No longer a sports car with 50/50 balance and weight behind the front axle.... now it's a drag car. If you want a drag car, go for it. Any body or frame will do.
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It seems drastic to change to piston engine for only 400 hp which is readily achieved by a rotary. A 400 hp rotary have better handling.

Do you know why did he choose a 5.0 litre instead of LS1?
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Originally Posted by kleinke
It seems drastic to change to piston engine for only 400 hp which is readily achieved by a rotary. A 400 hp rotary have better handling.

Do you know why did he choose a 5.0 litre instead of LS1?
options for the LS1 swap into the 1st gen. are very limited right now up to this point. only 1 person has pulled it off so far, and an acquaintance of mine in oceanside, CA is almost done with his. so make that 2 in total.

and i do not think the balance isn't way off. when you swap in a REW, i'll guarantee you that it's about the same weight w/ the ford v8; give or take. a lot of people are 4getting that rotaries aren't that light just because they look small--then you include that w/ turbo hardware, the weight all adds up. and a 20b will even f*ck up the handling even more. people just need to do their research instead of believing what is 'myth'
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^^^ agreed. V8's weight difference is not much more than a rotary. Not to mention that a 400hp rotary is not always the most reliable of vehicles. 400hp can be cranked out of a v8 fairly easily and still run to over 100k.

Take this example.

z06 stock w/ 405 hp

13b-rew single turbo & the whole sha-bang. @ 400hp

I will gaurentee you that the z06 will outlast the rew because at higher hp the rotaries tend to be a little mre tempermental. Hey the rew stock only lasts between 70-100k anyways.
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keep it real, keep it reliable, keep it rotary
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Wakeup an smell the coffee. And when you get your sense of reality back come back to this post.
In the mean while, I'd race him on a road course, where a true test of a car is had.
Anyone can mash a gas pedal and hold it in a line, oh wow. that was fun

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and what give him ur car gfor the cost of gas that it took him to smoke u? sry i dont me to talk bad but it is the truth that car w/ a 5.0L v8 is quicker then any nearly stock 7 u can find including urs. evern if he put in a chevy lb9 motor or the tuned barrel injection 5.0L which he didnt it would smoke ur 7
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So what if you moved the engine back and dropped it just a little so it is behind you front tires? You are going to have to make a custom driveshaft anyway. So that way the center of gravity is more towards the center of the car...you wouldn't add that much weight, and with a little imagination you could make it handle better.
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You'd have to cut the trans tunnel, the shifter will now be right beside you instead of in front of you and all of the stuff that is JAM PACKED on that trans tunnel under the dash will have to find a new home....might as well go buy a two year old Z-06...you'll be spending the same amount of money and getting your better handling car all sorted out for you.

No matter what you look at, if the engine is not offset severely to the back, you might as well strap on a 100 pound deer on your 1stgen's hood because that's what you're doing to the weight balance. Do you honestly believe you'll go through an auto-x course or a highway cloverleaf JUST AS FAST with that big old dead weight up front?

Gimme a break........

On 2ndgens and 3rdgens, there is, in fact, no discernable difference between the rotary and the V8's when it comes to handling. THERE is a difference when it comes to the 1stgen....simple fact backed up by real world data by GRM.....
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soooo... you're saying those guys swapping in a turboII or REW will f*ck up the handling too right? you do know how heavy a t2 or REW motor gets when it does get modded (or even stock); we're talking about the entire motor (turbo, IC, plumbing for intake and exhaust, etc.) and tranny assembly.
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Can't say....none of the GRM competitors ran that conversion in a 1stgen....you still don't have a lot of weight above the centerline with those swaps unless you feel like running the turbo at the hoodline.....haven't seen that done yet.....
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