Ive seen the adapter plates/spacers to take them to the 5x114 lug

I really want better wheels on the back the sidewalls are killing me here.

Or if you know of a place that has 4x110 wheels?

 

ReSpeed is now selling Moser axles that come in a couple of different bolt patterns, the 5 lug FC pattern being one of them. He is also making or has available the brackets for the TII rear brake conversion. This, imho, is the best option out there for not only upgrading the strength of the rear end, but also upgrading the brakes.

As finances dictate, this is the route I will be going since I already have the front setup. Having the full TII brakes setup on all 4 corners, along with the big *** tires should make the widebody stop on a dime and leave me with 9 cents change, along with bulging eyeballs.

Keep in mind that the TII brake calipers needs 15" rims for clearence, but with the full swap on all 4 corners, the wheel choice grows exponentiially.

 

Sweet dude thanks. I havent found but one wheel to fit the 4x110 and tire rack discontinued them

hmmm have to go check the production date **crosses fingers**

 

get the axles from respeed. i have them in my car. great quality and great customer service.

 

 

A question to the people that have the ones from billy, when you install the 2nd gen brakes ... do they fit within the stock rear dust cover? Or do you need to take it off or whats the deal?

 

The GSL-SE dust shields work without to much trouble. The smaller brake cars will need to be modified where it forms around the rotor.

My suggestion is to slot the backing plates while you have them loose from the axles. Then they can slide on and off without pressing the axle bearings on and off. You can then experiment cutting some of the formed lip from them until they fit.

Pics show stock part and then modified.



-billy

 

now i checked the production date on my gsl and it said 09/82 would these still work?

 

You will need to pull them and check. 83 was a bastard year as far as axles go. SInce it is early I would say small bearing.

-billy

 

I don't mean to be an *** about it, but its a bitch for us with the small bearing rear end. After the cost of the axles, then getting a used big bearing rear end to put them in, then depending on brakes, those need to be done. After all is said and done, I could just as cheaply swap a ford 8.8 in my car and have enough power handling capability to go as far as I wanted, insteady of being limited by the tiny stock ring and pinion.

 

So do yall not make a small bearing axle?

 

We do not.

Everything can not be a bolt on mod. Sometimes you have to be creative. There are so many ways this can be done.

Big Brake with Stock axles:

1) Re-drill a set of TII rear rotors to stock 110MM bolt pattern. (rotors will not be hub centric)
2) Have AWR make you a special 110mm rotor hat for their 2 piece rotor setup. (rotors will not be hub centric)

Bolt Pattern Change with stock brakes:

1) Re-drill your own axles and rotors with another bolt pattern. (Difficult on the front)

Big Brakes with aftermarket 5 lug small bearing axles:

1) Do the research and find a manufacturer that will make them. Moser won't but there are a number of other companies out there.



-billy

 

so is there a measurment to find out if i have the small bearings?

 

You could measure the od of the axles housing where the bearing sits. It will be 3.2~"

OD if the big bearing axle housing just behind the flange will be approximately 3.2" in diameter.


Also, IIRC, if your rear end/drive shaft flange is tapped it is big axle, if it is through bolted with nuts it will be a small axle.

-billy

 

Well.....Why is it you dont make small axles? IMO if you did then youd make a killing

 

No one is making a killing on first gen parts Anyone persistnat enough to keep coming out with new parts has got to be insane


Moser starts with heat treated blanks for there axles. The closest blank to our axles is the one they are using to make the ReSpeed units. One the extra material is removed to make the smaller spline axles, allot of the heat treat will have been cut away. This leaves you with an axle that is not strong enough to be called an axle.


I can make a drill jig to allow the customer the ability to re-drill his own axles. He would need access to a drill press. The drill jig would be loaned out and the money refunded once it was returned. I have offered this once before without much response though. Sounds like a winner to me.

-billy

 

So I COULD just make a template using my S5 hubs and redrill my 85GS axles? I asked someone else and they said it couldn't be done.

 

Why did mazda have to use the WIERDEST bolt pattern lol

 

if you have an 85 GS then you have drums, no it cant be done. if you aquired a 84-85 disc rearend, GSL or GSLSE, then you would be set.

 

ahhh forgot that part. It would just be easier for me to order axles with the proper bolt pattern from respeed then?