REAL dry carbon hoods anyone?
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REAL dry carbon hoods anyone?
I have a PROFESSIONAL source that make very top-end dry carbon parts(usually only for Porshe) but he wants me to gauge interest in hoods for our cars. He can do anything we want for scoops or whatever and are garenteed to fit 100% perfect. These are TOP END not fiberglass with carbon over it. These weigh about 6 pounds when done and will change handeling and cooling characteristics. He pays about $6-800 in just materials and then all the labor. We would be looking at about 1-2 grand for an absoulutley amazing hood.... I am looking to get a group buy together and the more people the cheaper they get. Please let me know here or PM me. Im sure you guys will freak about the price but we are talking about an amazing hood. I will try to get some pics of his other work together so you can see the level of professionalism and beauty.
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I have a PROFESSIONAL source that make very top-end dry carbon parts(usually only for Porsche) but he wants me to gauge interest in hoods for our cars. He can do anything we want for scoops or whatever and are garenteed to fit 100% perfect. These are TOP END not fiberglass with carbon over it. These weigh about 6 pounds when done and will change handling and cooling characteristics. He pays about $6-800 in just materials and then all the labor. We would be looking at about 1-2 grand for an absolutely amazing hood.... I am looking to get a group buy together and the more people the cheaper they get. Please let me know here or PM me. Im sure you guys will freak about the price but we are talking about an amazing hood. I will try to get some pics of his other work together so you can see the level of professionalism and beauty.
Thanks
Charlie
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There are different ways of doing carbon fiber ... one of the more simpley ways and cheaper but not as strong and not as light, is by vacum baging the parts. What is meant by that is the whole hood or part would be bagged, and from one end you haveresin flowing and the other you have suction (on some pieces you can just apply the resin on the part and vacumm it). When you vacumm all the excess resin out of the part, you're also taking out most of the air bubble and what not.
the other method requires expensive rooms that are all temperature, humidity, and vacumm controlled. This is when you start getting into top end carbon fiber stuff like doing Ferrari chassis, or body panels. When you need the ultimate lightest (lightness and strenght of the CF parts are also determined by the weave pattern), and yet strongest parts.
Also another thing that determines strenght, is the resin itself, the best are epoxy based, which in return when craked it usually just does one crack like a windshield crack almost. the cheaper stuff will do like a spider effect.
And I think thats about it about carbon fiber 101 .. i know its not the greatest way to explain things ... but its a start for understanding of why some stuff you can get is so cheap while others isn't. FiberMaz if i recall correctly does vacum bag it, but he also uses epoxy resin. So still strong enough.
Lastly, As others have mentioned ... 1g plus for hoods is definatly not 1st gen teritory, most likely 3rd gen if anything. heck people stuggle enough to fork out 600$ ish for Fibermaz hood. Not trying to say screw your Idea, I appreciate people trying to make things for our cars but we always have to be as realistic as we can. If you can do a group buy props to you.
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the other method requires expensive rooms that are all temperature, humidity, and vacumm controlled. This is when you start getting into top end carbon fiber stuff like doing Ferrari chassis, or body panels. When you need the ultimate lightest (lightness and strenght of the CF parts are also determined by the weave pattern), and yet strongest parts.
Also another thing that determines strenght, is the resin itself, the best are epoxy based, which in return when craked it usually just does one crack like a windshield crack almost. the cheaper stuff will do like a spider effect.
And I think thats about it about carbon fiber 101 .. i know its not the greatest way to explain things ... but its a start for understanding of why some stuff you can get is so cheap while others isn't. FiberMaz if i recall correctly does vacum bag it, but he also uses epoxy resin. So still strong enough.
Lastly, As others have mentioned ... 1g plus for hoods is definatly not 1st gen teritory, most likely 3rd gen if anything. heck people stuggle enough to fork out 600$ ish for Fibermaz hood. Not trying to say screw your Idea, I appreciate people trying to make things for our cars but we always have to be as realistic as we can. If you can do a group buy props to you.
Sam
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I thought that using vacuum bags and autoclave pressure curing at elevated temperatures was THE best way to build carbon fiber parts.
Room temperature and pressure curing is not high tech.
I was looking at a cut-away section of $440,000 Porsche Carrera GT carbon fiber chassis two weeks ago, and the vacuum bag material was still visible inside the center of the tubular section carbon fiber windshield frame member. That carbon fiber chassis is a work of art.
Room temperature and pressure curing is not high tech.
I was looking at a cut-away section of $440,000 Porsche Carrera GT carbon fiber chassis two weeks ago, and the vacuum bag material was still visible inside the center of the tubular section carbon fiber windshield frame member. That carbon fiber chassis is a work of art.
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ill be working at elan motorsports laying the CF for the race cars. they use the bag and autoclave. i dont think theyd cheap out.
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