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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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the rareity of gsl-se's

everybody rags on my car at work, i work at a dodge dealership and they tell me to trade it in on a cobra mustang we have or an a srt-4... but i tell them if i sell it, ill never see another one like that in that condition again. so could somebody point me to a website to tell me the exact production of a gsl-se? ive heard that they only made 5000 in 84-85. but im not sure
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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This has been discussed before. Do a search, but the best I remember there is no certain number. From what one of the other members had reaserched Mazda isn't telling how many were shipped to N. America.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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i've also heard the 5000 range...but like brian said who knows...
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Do you care how many were made? There are a bagillion Trans-maro-birds and Mustangs, but nearly everyone who owns one has THIER Mustotransbirdmaro. Your GSL-SE is your baby, tell your coworkers to blow it out thier asses. If you start throwing around production numbers you are going to end up in more of an argument than you are in now. Arguments over matters of taste never end well.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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tru, it always makes me laugh when they say " there is no replacement for displacement"... haha!
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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tru, it always makes me laugh when they say " there is no replacement for displacement"... haha!
Go look at the NASA (not the space people) regulations. They use an adjusted displacement system. Your engines measured displacement is multiplied by a factor based on what kind of engine it is. Diesels are 0.8, 2v engines are 1.0, 4v engines are 1.2 (I think) and rotaries are 1.8 . The 787B was banned from its racing class because it was too good, it was outperforming and outlasting the best of the old guard. Rotaries do have thier caveats and are not ideal for all applications but the regulators of the best leagues restrict them heavily. That says something.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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You could also tell them that the first thing that racers do with a serious race car is strip off the excess weight. Your RX7 makes 145 hp from an engine that weighs something like 300 pounds. Piston engines just can't match that.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Doesn't really matter, I've only seen 2 other FB's in general on the road, forgetting the GSL-SE status.

If the numbers were that low, it makes me cringe even more that I saw a GSL-SE in the junkyard, and know for a fact that they crushed it to make more room. I would've hauled it off the lot for them for free if I knew that was coming. As far as I remember the doors and interior were all that was messy. Damn boo hoo, Least I got the glass top before they smahed it too.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 82SilverRX7
Doesn't really matter, I've only seen 2 other FB's in general on the road, forgetting the GSL-SE status.

If the numbers were that low, it makes me cringe even more that I saw a GSL-SE in the junkyard, and know for a fact that they crushed it to make more room. I would've hauled it off the lot for them for free if I knew that was coming. As far as I remember the doors and interior were all that was messy. Damn boo hoo, Least I got the glass top before they smahed it too.
...that brings a tear to my eye... I need GSL-SE parts, dammit
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Mint 1st gens, let alone GSL-SEs are INCREDIBLY rare. Most are rotted to ****, not well taken care of, or owned by an idiot (as I've found a couple times). Keep it, or sell it to me.

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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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I don't know why but my posts aren't showing up..

I have GSL-SE rims sitting under the house that I'd sell.. Any desire for them? I paid 80 bucks but I'd go less to get them out of there.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Good condition GSL-SE's are a rare bird. It would be wise to hold onto it.
I'm saving my pennies to find one in mint shape and keep it stock.

If for some chance you decide to part ways with yours- give me a jingle!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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GSL-SE's rare ? no... don't know how many made, don't care either it's not important. don't say **** to your co-workers, or maybe ask them why do they think you should be in another car....reasons. ask whoever to discribe the inner-workings of the rotory engine,,if they can. i've found that most people who say anything to me about my car(s) are people who used to own one and that they liked and miss having one of these little cars, they used to be everywhere.. if you ask me the rx7 in general, all models are getting thin, rare.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Why would they rag on it? Are they jealous, or just ignorant rednecks? Some people have no clue about cars. I used to spend the summer at the beach in South Carolina, where they were really into Camaros and Mustangs and my Maserati Merak was chopped liver, lol. Consider the source and don't worry about it.

Whether there were 5,000 or 500,000 of them made, there are very few still around. The only time I see any first generation RX-7 is at a car meet (and then only 2 or 3). There are a couple million people in this area but very few RX-7's. There are none in the junkyards either. It is a classic design, and people that don't know better often think it is a new car.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicbang
It is a classic design, and people that don't know better often think it is a new car.
uh, I'd believe that if you refering to a FD, but not a first gen.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nevarmore
. The 787B was banned from its racing class because it was too good, it was outperforming and outlasting the best of the old guard. Rotaries do have thier caveats and are not ideal for all applications but the regulators of the best leagues restrict them heavily. That says something.
Mazda tried for many years to win LeMans with a rotary powered car. Year after year they failed, until finally the 787B won, and it was only because the car in front of it broke. Im not saying it isnt an amazing car, but it was in no way why rotaries were banned from racing, it was because of new regulations that were coming into play reguardless.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by neofreak
uh, I'd believe that if you refering to a FD, but not a first gen.
I hear it about both of them. And if not new, they think it is from the late 90's.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Mazda tried for many years to win LeMans with a rotary powered car. Year after year they failed, until finally the 787B won, and it was only because the car in front of it broke. Im not saying it isnt an amazing car, but it was in no way why rotaries were banned from racing, it was because of new regulations that were coming into play reguardless.
I just find it odd that regulations weren't adjusted to increase competition through engineering. The rotary did prove itself to be a viable engine design that offered a solid challenge. Why was it not encouraged?

Of course I'm biased, they regulated out one of my fetishes so I see those regs as being bad.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by neofreak
uh, I'd believe that if you refering to a FD, but not a first gen.
This is typical coming from a 3rd gen owner who thinks that a 1st gen is ghetto!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rxseven07
tru, it always makes me laugh when they say " there is no replacement for displacement"... haha!
Sure there is--it's called a rotary engine!

If you had a rotary that matched the displacement of a V-8, I think the rotary would have more total torque and horsepower. But yes, for the rotary design, the torque per unit horsepower is less than the piston design.

There's also something to be said about three (3) moving parts.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianhsval
This is typical coming from a 3rd gen owner who thinks that a 1st gen is ghetto!
I don't have a first gen? ok.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianhsval
This is typical coming from a 3rd gen owner who thinks that a 1st gen is ghetto!
Hey! Be nice I have both and both are special.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cpa7man
Hey! Be nice I have both and both are special.
Both also.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex4Life
There's also something to be said about three (3) moving parts.
<devils advocate> Yes but, those 3 moving parts require around a dozen seals, each.</devils advocate>
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nevarmore
<devils advocate> Yes but, those 3 moving parts require around a dozen seals, each.</devils advocate>
Yeah, and how come a supposedly simpler motor costs $2500 rebuilt. That's more that $800 a moving part....

Oh well, I am hooked on my RX7, hopefully for life!
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