rxseven07

everybody rags on my car at work, i work at a dodge dealership and they tell me to trade it in on a cobra mustang we have or an a srt-4... but i tell them if i sell it, ill never see another one like that in that condition again. so could somebody point me to a website to tell me the exact production of a gsl-se? ive heard that they only made 5000 in 84-85. but im not sure

Brianhsval

This has been discussed before. Do a search, but the best I remember there is no certain number. From what one of the other members had reaserched Mazda isn't telling how many were shipped to N. America.

BMS2004

i've also heard the 5000 range...but like brian said who knows...

nevarmore

Do you care how many were made? There are a bagillion Trans-maro-birds and Mustangs, but nearly everyone who owns one has THIER Mustotransbirdmaro. Your GSL-SE is your baby, tell your coworkers to blow it out thier asses. If you start throwing around production numbers you are going to end up in more of an argument than you are in now. Arguments over matters of taste never end well.

rxseven07

tru, it always makes me laugh when they say " there is no replacement for displacement"... haha!

nevarmore

Go look at the NASA (not the space people) regulations. They use an adjusted displacement system. Your engines measured displacement is multiplied by a factor based on what kind of engine it is. Diesels are 0.8, 2v engines are 1.0, 4v engines are 1.2 (I think) and rotaries are 1.8 . The 787B was banned from its racing class because it was too good, it was outperforming and outlasting the best of the old guard. Rotaries do have thier caveats and are not ideal for all applications but the regulators of the best leagues restrict them heavily. That says something.

djjazzynads

You could also tell them that the first thing that racers do with a serious race car is strip off the excess weight. Your RX7 makes 145 hp from an engine that weighs something like 300 pounds. Piston engines just can't match that.

82SilverRX7

Doesn't really matter, I've only seen 2 other FB's in general on the road, forgetting the GSL-SE status.

If the numbers were that low, it makes me cringe even more that I saw a GSL-SE in the junkyard, and know for a fact that they crushed it to make more room. I would've hauled it off the lot for them for free if I knew that was coming. As far as I remember the doors and interior were all that was messy. Damn boo hoo, Least I got the glass top before they smahed it too.

JKM

...that brings a tear to my eye... I need GSL-SE parts, dammit

nekky

Mint 1st gens, let alone GSL-SEs are INCREDIBLY rare. Most are rotted to ****, not well taken care of, or owned by an idiot (as I've found a couple times). Keep it, or sell it to me.

Zac

82SilverRX7

I don't know why but my posts aren't showing up..

I have GSL-SE rims sitting under the house that I'd sell.. Any desire for them? I paid 80 bucks but I'd go less to get them out of there.

Tom

Good condition GSL-SE's are a rare bird. It would be wise to hold onto it.
I'm saving my pennies to find one in mint shape and keep it stock.

If for some chance you decide to part ways with yours- give me a jingle!

MarkPerez

GSL-SE's rare ? no... don't know how many made, don't care either it's not important. don't say **** to your co-workers, or maybe ask them why do they think you should be in another car....reasons. ask whoever to discribe the inner-workings of the rotory engine,,if they can. i've found that most people who say anything to me about my car(s) are people who used to own one and that they liked and miss having one of these little cars, they used to be everywhere.. if you ask me the rx7 in general, all models are getting thin, rare.

cosmicbang

Why would they rag on it? Are they jealous, or just ignorant rednecks? Some people have no clue about cars. I used to spend the summer at the beach in South Carolina, where they were really into Camaros and Mustangs and my Maserati Merak was chopped liver, lol. Consider the source and don't worry about it.

Whether there were 5,000 or 500,000 of them made, there are very few still around. The only time I see any first generation RX-7 is at a car meet (and then only 2 or 3). There are a couple million people in this area but very few RX-7's. There are none in the junkyards either. It is a classic design, and people that don't know better often think it is a new car.

neofreak

uh, I'd believe that if you refering to a FD, but not a first gen.

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

Mazda tried for many years to win LeMans with a rotary powered car. Year after year they failed, until finally the 787B won, and it was only because the car in front of it broke. Im not saying it isnt an amazing car, but it was in no way why rotaries were banned from racing, it was because of new regulations that were coming into play reguardless.

cosmicbang

I hear it about both of them. And if not new, they think it is from the late 90's.

nevarmore

I just find it odd that regulations weren't adjusted to increase competition through engineering. The rotary did prove itself to be a viable engine design that offered a solid challenge. Why was it not encouraged?

Of course I'm biased, they regulated out one of my fetishes so I see those regs as being bad.

Brianhsval

This is typical coming from a 3rd gen owner who thinks that a 1st gen is ghetto!

Rex4Life

Sure there is--it's called a rotary engine!

If you had a rotary that matched the displacement of a V-8, I think the rotary would have more total torque and horsepower. But yes, for the rotary design, the torque per unit horsepower is less than the piston design.

There's also something to be said about three (3) moving parts.

neofreak

I don't have a first gen? ok.

cpa7man

iTrader: (2)

Hey! Be nice I have both and both are special.

cosmicbang

Both also.

nevarmore

<devils advocate> Yes but, those 3 moving parts require around a dozen seals, each.</devils advocate>

djjazzynads

Yeah, and how come a supposedly simpler motor costs $2500 rebuilt. That's more that $800 a moving part....

Oh well, I am hooked on my RX7, hopefully for life!