Pacesetter Headers
Im working on replacing the exhaust system in my 1984 Gsl se. It currently has a single cat with a presilencer, the air pump is still hooked up and the stock manifold is on. I ordered a pacsetter monza muffler, and a new midpipe. I was wondering if anyone has experience with the pacesetter header, (http://info.automotix.net/bodyparts/...p40701070.html, or the same one from black dragon). Does it fit with a stock cat system or better yet would it fit with a racing beat cat removal pipe?
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you'll hate yourself in less than a year.
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It's garbage, as is the muffler. Super loud, sounds crappy, and flows badly.
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don't be cruel they already bought the muffler
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You could not give me pacesetter headers and muffler. What's the return policy? The quality really is that piss poor.
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What would your suggestion be for a muffler setup that isnt too expensive youre talking to a poor college student here.
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RB Power Pulse muffler dude.
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Or custom. Get a Borla ProXS and have a muffler shop weld it on. I doubt it would be much if any louder than that Pacesetter crap, and would definitely sound and flow a lot better.
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I spent $550 on mine. Very Very solid exhaust.
RB header $150 used RB Cat delete pipe $150 Magnaflow Muffler $200 Installed $50 Dont go cheap on rotaries...you'll hate yourself later. |
i'ma magnaflow guy myself. they have alot of different designs and i find that they give the rotary a nice rumble. as for header.....ditch the "pacemaker" and find a used racing beat.
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I canceled my order for the pacesetter mufflers, i would personally like to go with the RB exhaust system but it costs more than i paid for the car so i dont think i can dish out that kind of cash. I might just go with the power pule muffler and leave the single cat and presilencer i have on. but the midpipe and muffler are just about rusted away.
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gut the cat
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not a bad idea, i was thinking about getting the cat replacement pipe from RB its my understanding that if fits between the stock exhaust manifold and the mid pipe. is this correct?
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Originally Posted by themayor500
(Post 8788485)
I was wondering if anyone has experience with the pacesetter header?
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I had a pacesetter header....
I winter drove the car in Canada, 3 yrs total... then sold it in great shape... Just because I went turbo... I had ZERO problems.... |
I've found that the people that bash Pacesetter headers the hardest are the ones that have never even laid a finger on one. I had one. While definitely not the best out there, the gains from it over stock are undeniable. Mine lasted many years before I finally cut it up an integrated it into other projects. It never rusted out and I certainly didn't hate it in less than a year. It also directly bolted up with no issues at all. Just reuse the stock exhaust gasket as the one it comes with is paper. Bad news for hot exhaust. If you can afford better equipment than by all means go for it but if you have a tight budget and need a reasonable gain, don't be scared of it. It's not as bad as people make it out to be and definitely a noticable upgrade from stock.
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Originally Posted by themayor500
(Post 8791103)
not a bad idea, i was thinking about getting the cat replacement pipe from RB its my understanding that if fits between the stock exhaust manifold and the mid pipe. is this correct?
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I have a pacesetter header on my sa, it's been on there for about a year and a half. I haven't had any problems yet, no rust. As mentioned above, the only thing I did was order a new gasket from mazda instead of using the one that came with it. I decided to try the pacesetter over the rb one because I knew that I would be swapping in a t2 motor at some point, I'll hopefully start on that next fall.
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The cat replacement pipe is designed for the collected 12A header (Street). Its a direct bolt in to that header. Not sure about the stock manifold.
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Originally Posted by themayor500
(Post 8790931)
...it costs more than i paid for the car so i dont think i can dish out that kind of cash...
Especially when the initial purchase price was a bargain; there's always a reason why the seller was selling. |
Originally Posted by tallbozo
(Post 8791714)
The cat replacement pipe is designed for the collected 12A header (Street). Its a direct bolt in to that header. Not sure about the stock manifold.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
(Post 8791206)
I've found that the people that bash Pacesetter headers the hardest are the ones that have never even laid a finger on one. I had one. While definitely not the best out there, the gains from it over stock are undeniable. Mine lasted many years before I finally cut it up an integrated it into other projects. It never rusted out and I certainly didn't hate it in less than a year. It also directly bolted up with no issues at all. Just reuse the stock exhaust gasket as the one it comes with is paper. Bad news for hot exhaust. If you can afford better equipment than by all means go for it but if you have a tight budget and need a reasonable gain, don't be scared of it. It's not as bad as people make it out to be and definitely a noticable upgrade from stock.
But I can tell you for certain that the full system is utter crap. I knew a guy who had it on his car, and I'm not joking, it was like listening to someone shaking a chain-link fence. It made my GLC seem quiet, and my GLC would give me headaches on the freeway. Plus, his car just wasn't very fast, even with his dual Weber setup. It's easy to see why. The header isn't all that well designed, the mufflers are louvered-core, and the bends in the pipe are sub-standard. It's just not worth it. Leave the stock system on there for a little while longer while you save up for the RB system. |
Originally Posted by themayor500
(Post 8791103)
not a bad idea, i was thinking about getting the cat replacement pipe from RB its my understanding that if fits between the stock exhaust manifold and the mid pipe. is this correct?
The cat replacement pipe is built to the same quality standards as the RB headers. https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1229042453 |
If a RB unit is waht you want then WAIT. Shop around I just sold a complete RB exhaust system for 500$ only 3k miles on it too. This was the SP setup at that. So if you shop around and be patient youll find one.
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I personally have a RB header, stock pipe from there to the muffler, then my Apexi N1 that was off a FC.
I will be doing a custom pipe from my header to the N1 that is under the axle. I have heard that you can just go under not over. I will be using 2.5" piping! :) http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...12-9-08001.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...12-9-08003.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...7112808009.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...7112808013.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...7112808021.jpg |
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