1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections
View Poll Results: what kind of oil i can use
stick with Valvoline Max Life 10w-30
2
6.90%
Valvoline non Max Life 10w-30
0
0%
Valvoline non Max Life 20w-50
2
6.90%
Mobil 1 10w-30
1
3.45%
Mobil 1 20w-50
4
13.79%
other
20
68.97%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

oil sugestion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:48 AM
  #1  
eddierotary's Avatar
Thread Starter
back with rotaries
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,239
Likes: 1
From: Watertown, NY
oil sugestion

i use to use on my rex before i put the turbo Valvoline Max Life 10w-30 and fram double gard filter but im going to get a mazda oil filter today and i would like to know what oil you suggest to use on my turbo N/A setup. i was thinking to get Valvoline or Mobil- 20w50 or 10w30 but i dont know if 20w-50 is too thick for the king of weather is here. i would like to hear sugestion of what king of oil and brand i can use. thanks
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:29 AM
  #2  
purple82's Avatar
Absolute Power is Awesome
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 5
From: Issaquah, WA
My N/A 13b was built up last year. Initially I had Mobile1 20W-50 in it. For some reason, it burned through the stuff like crazy. Switched over to Val 15W-40 and haven't gone through any.

I don't know if it's typical.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:49 AM
  #3  
Directfreak's Avatar
I am a Jeeper Now.
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 4
From: 3OH5
Castrol GTX - 10W-40
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 11:15 AM
  #4  
purple82's Avatar
Absolute Power is Awesome
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 5
From: Issaquah, WA
As long as you don't use penzoil or quaker state, you should be good. Pennsylvania oil is high in sulfer content.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 11:22 AM
  #5  
Rotary13B1's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,900
Likes: 6
From: 626/323/213
Castrol GTX 20W/50 for sunny S. California
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 11:31 AM
  #6  
inittab's Avatar
I read your email
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,624
Likes: 1
From: NW New Jersey
Re: oil sugestion

Originally posted by eddierotary
i would like to know what oil you suggest to use on my turbo N/A setup
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 11:34 AM
  #7  
mar3's Avatar
Administrator
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 12,974
Likes: 62
From: So. Arlington, TX!!!
Does Castrol still make the 10W-50? I'm going back to that...the other streetport 12A in the wrecked '80 was on Mobil1 with MMO to keep everything clean...worked great and saved the engine one time when one of the side heater hoses blew and I drove it home in the red zone for 5 minutes with no coolant....Mobil1 is not joking when they say it can take the heat,,,engine didn't smoke or consume more oil after the incident...
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 07:03 PM
  #8  
85RX7GS's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 1
From: NJ
Re: oil sugestion

Originally posted by eddierotary
i would like to hear sugestion of what king of oil and brand i can use. thanks
What kind of oil can you use? Anything you want. Just make sure use the correct weight for your area.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 06:19 AM
  #9  
eddierotary's Avatar
Thread Starter
back with rotaries
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,239
Likes: 1
From: Watertown, NY
Re: Re: oil sugestion

Originally posted by 85RX7GS


What kind of oil can you use? Anything you want. Just make sure use the correct weight for your area.
that why im asking because i live in upstate NY and over here 2/3 of the year is winter (from -30 to 50) and humid rarelly get over 90 in summer, exept last year, but most of the time is cool and i hear for turbo engine you have to use 20w-50 but im worry that is too thick for the weather here.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 06:24 AM
  #10  
eddierotary's Avatar
Thread Starter
back with rotaries
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,239
Likes: 1
From: Watertown, NY
Re: Re: oil sugestion

Originally posted by inittab


yes turbo N/A setup, 85 gslse N/A engine with a 88 turbo II turbo
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:54 AM
  #11  
85RX7GS's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 1
From: NJ
Re: Re: Re: oil sugestion

Originally posted by eddierotary


that why im asking because i live in upstate NY and over here 2/3 of the year is winter (from -30 to 50) and humid rarelly get over 90 in summer, exept last year, but most of the time is cool and i hear for turbo engine you have to use 20w-50 but im worry that is too thick for the weather here.
Exactly. Use 10w30.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:44 AM
  #12  
Pele's Avatar
Right near Malloy
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 7,855
Likes: 517
From: Behind a workbench, repairing FC Electronics.
I wouldn't use 10w40... Too high of a range of viscosity, measne theres a lotta viscosity enhancer additives in there.

4:1 20w50 - MMO, for summer

4.5:0.5 10w30 - MMO, for winter

Brand is still up for debate. Everyone reccomends Castrol GTX, but I still have not seen a good reason to stick with it. None the less, it was what I was using when I had my RX-7 running.

I will now stay away fron Pennzoil due to high sulphur content. Thanks fo rthe heads up purple82...

I've heard Halvoline is good because it's light yellow, almost greenish color indicates that it has few additives... I froght what oil I last put in my Honda, but it too had this kind of color... It wasn't the cheapest oil at the store, but it was also a few bucks cheaper than Castrol GTX... (I buy by the 12 bottle case and 3 filters at a time.)

Last edited by Pele; Jan 31, 2003 at 09:50 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:24 AM
  #13  
drippa's Avatar
i didn't do it
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
i'm with directfreak i prefer Castrol GTX - 10W-40 IMHO of course
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:54 AM
  #14  
rx7gslse's Avatar
EX Pres of DFW Drunks
Tenured Member: 25 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 1
From: DFW, TX/Mexico
Originally posted by Rotary13B1
Castrol GTX 20W/50 for sunny S. California
same for here in TX
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 12:05 PM
  #15  
mar3's Avatar
Administrator
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 12,974
Likes: 62
From: So. Arlington, TX!!!
Originally posted by Rotary13B1

Castrol GTX 20W/50 for sunny S. California

Originally posted by rx7gslse

same for here in TX

Ahhh,but what kind of stress is the oil pump seeing at start up on days like this?? Arf! Jes' havin' fun, maihn...



Reply
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 05:59 PM
  #16  
faye x7's Avatar
brilliantly stupid
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
From: Rockford, IL
I've got 20w-50 in my rex and it's pretty cold here in IL. Runs just fine no problems here.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 07:07 PM
  #17  
setzep's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,524
Likes: 0
From: MN
I woulden"t ues any synthetic oil if you are still running the omp.

I think I'm going to go with 10w-40 castrol and change it when ever it starts to smell like gas or when it starts to turn a darker brown.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 08:16 PM
  #18  
jeremy's Avatar
male stripper
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,126
Likes: 1
From: St Petersburg, FL
you are all wrong. oil is weight. i spray a can of pam (the low fat kind) into each chamber, coating the internals and then fly like a ****. psht, oil.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2003 | 09:07 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
From: Burnsville, MN
I recomend Royal Purple Synthetic Oil. It is actually dyno proven, it gives you like almost 10 HP. And its good for the car.

Thomas Stifter
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2003 | 10:18 PM
  #20  
eddierotary's Avatar
Thread Starter
back with rotaries
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,239
Likes: 1
From: Watertown, NY
Originally posted by Rotary Revolution
I recomend Royal Purple Synthetic Oil. It is actually dyno proven, it gives you like almost 10 HP. And its good for the car.

Thomas Stifter
do you know that synthetic oil is bad for rotary . thanks anyway i got castrol GTX 10w-30
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2003 | 10:59 PM
  #21  
Keaponlaffen's Avatar
---------------------
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,029
Likes: 0
From: Kamloops BC Canada
Originally posted by jeremy
you are all wrong. oil is weight. i spray a can of pam (the low fat kind) into each chamber, coating the internals and then fly like a ****. psht, oil.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:16 PM
  #22  
12aPwr's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, Ca
i agree with Rotary13b1, castrol 20w-50, gotta love southern cali where its 80 in winter
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:37 PM
  #23  
Mid_KnightFD's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: mobile,alabama
do you know that synthetic oil is bad for rotary . thanks anyway i got castrol GTX 10w-30
That's not true anymore Maybe it was with the old synthetics but the new synthetics burn off much more cleaner FYI. I have used Royal Purple and right now I have Valvoline Racing 5w50 in it. I may go back to Purple but I change my oil so often that I cant see paying more for the Purple. I also Premix.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:26 AM
  #24  
Woyzeck's Avatar
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Tucson
Synthetic oil is still synthetic. It has ingredients which prevent heat up and thus wear. It dissipates heat better and is designed to lubricate and function in extreme temperatures. I don't think it is a good idea to use in your rotary since anything that makes it hard for your rotary to burn oil would be inhibiting the proper design of the engine. Besides if your engine has more than 60 or 70k it really won't protect any better than conventional oil if you didn't use it from the beginning.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 08:49 PM
  #25  
mar3's Avatar
Administrator
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 12,974
Likes: 62
From: So. Arlington, TX!!!
What about using MMO to break up the synthetic chains and thus get it to burn in the combustion chambers? Could be the best of both worlds waiting right there. I was doing that for the '80 12A RP streeport, but the long term experiment was cut short by a '02 Caddy last May....

ps. I'm convinced the Mobil1 saved the engine one unfortunate night when the plastic housing for the fuse on the electric fan dissolved and I had to limp it home with the heater blowing on high and dodging in and out of rush hour traffic trying to avoid coming to a complete standstill. It still happened a couple of times and the car made it home with the temp neddle pegged out and it stopped immediately when i got it home. I was going to rush out get some water across the radiator and jump the fan with my starter cables, but it died the second my foot came off the gas pedal. I let it sit for two days to cool completely down, turned it by hand with the belts a couple of times and tried starting it. It started right up, no smoke and settled into its normal idle like nothing had happened. I replaced the crap plastic fuse holder with a Fusion 50A breaker so I'd never be put in that position again and never looked back. The engine showed no signs of being hurt and the oil even looked the same. Mobil's not joking about that frying pan commercial...
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:07 AM.