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Old 08-30-02, 04:21 PM
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Old 08-30-02, 04:36 PM
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Is this stuff street legal in the US ? Its a big grey area in the UK with most insurance companies refusing to cover passenger cars carrying compressed gas bottles ( I think to stop people from having it instaled and then claiming that they never use it on the street to stop them having to declare it on their insurance)
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Rotor motor Driver... that's the one!!! Sportmans fogger is the way to go. I planned on running a holley system with the RB holley intake manifold and the bungs tapped in the secs, this as someone very knowledgeable in this forum recommended. But so far I'm going to do a different settup without a holley intake at all.




Mar3...About not been able to the power to the ground...absolutely right!!! biggest problem so far.
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wtf are you talking about 12's you think you are going to hit 12's with a car that has 200 hp that's ******* impossible. Third gens with 300+ hp are lucky to get into the 12's Your dreamin ricer.
Old 08-30-02, 05:07 PM
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woah, easy with the flames - let's keep this just talkin' about speeding up the car.
Old 08-30-02, 05:09 PM
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you ought to become a moderator
Old 08-30-02, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by RX7withNitrous
wtf are you talking about 12's you think you are going to hit 12's with a car that has 200 hp that's ******* impossible. Third gens with 300+ hp are lucky to get into the 12's Your dreamin ricer.
Hey Now!!

None of that 2nd Gen Forum **** over here!!!

Even if he IS totally wrong...
Old 08-30-02, 05:24 PM
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I love it

Here is some interesting reading material just doing a a simple search:

how to run 12s with a streetported engine and 75hp shot

here is how to run 9s with a $600 system in an RX3

here is a funny one by peejay...

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haha i drive a second gen guess some of it rubs off.
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damn you beat me to it...

read my edit...

Old 08-30-02, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by mperformance
I love it

Here is some interesting reading material just doing a a simple search:

how to run 12s with a streetported engine and 75hp shot

here is how to run 9s with a $600 system in an RX3

here is a funny one by peejay...
I think you shot yerself in the foot here.

In this thread, the person who wanted a N-O-S, said it was for a STOCK-PORT 12A

I am very well aware of what a bridge-port engine with a Nitrous Oxide System can do. Especially a 13B.
Old 08-30-02, 06:20 PM
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what if you gutted your car totally and your running the 2000lb mark? Would you get close to 12's?

But with these mods...Cold Air Intake, Exhaust (2.5, mandrel bent) and Bridgy

2000lbs + bridgy + Nitrous = 12's?
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yeap...I also said 100hp and the system goes well into 150hp, direct. The stockport is ok...trust me. Only reason to crack open an engine is to be able to port it or to refreshen a worn one. If it's running ok why all the fuss if a cheap system is desired?

Remember porting the engine is just done to be able to flow more air/fuel, with a Nitrous system you are just pressurizing and injecting much more O2 and also extra fuel at will, just what a ported engine would do at all rpms. The only reason I posted all this "crap" is to get the ball going. I know it's not easy like I stated to hit the 12s but not IMPOSSIBLE and this with an FB.

So to be able to help out some intead of being negative, yeap ok ok...you won't hit the 12s but trust me it will be quick...so quick you will have fun spanking a few if not many turbo cars, so have fun. Now, many factors will have to be considered and thus why the folks here are so reluctant to pursue this method of increasing power. The drivetrain will be stressed a lot more due to the sudden power increase and the nonlinearity of it, the cheap systems like the ones posted are not very friendly at all rpms so basically you will run stock at most rpms and only power will be delivered at the systems rpm range...another reason why you won't run 12s technically if you run over 200hp at the wheels with good traction etc, in a light enough FB 12s are possible but nitrous will be on just at certain rpms so that rule doesn't apply.

About the 13B with bridge and juice I posted that as reference as for the kit...not comparing times nor power levels.

BTW I'm just trying to help.

Many folks call it rice or call it cheating...it's not.

Just giving some insight, anyhow don't you think this thread is fun?
Old 08-30-02, 10:46 PM
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Oh, I am a firm believer in Nitrous. There is no more Bang for the Buck than the blue bottle. (Showing my age, there are many different colors and styles now).

When I had my 81 GSL, I had a 6 port 13B engine lined up for it, so I decided to "require" the engine swap sooner. Yep, I added a 50 shot (dry) to my 12A, retarded the timing, and Riched out the Carb. I went through 2 bottles in 3 weeks.

It ran great, and it ran hard. It was definately in the 13's. In those days 13's were verrrry impressive. The engine never gave out under Juice. But I am sure she aged sooner, as an apex seal broke like 3 weeks later while cruising home. (I never refilled it again).

Even in my new Turbo setup, I wouldn't mind a 50 shot (wet) "Sneaky Pete" in case I run into "Racer X", and need it.

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I want to age mine...
Old 08-31-02, 11:14 AM
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i can't feel that big of a difference with the 50-shot course my car is alot heavier.
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you can build your own nitrous kit way cheaper then you can buy one,
you just have to get the funnel jet pack,bottle,foggers,two solenoids,
then the rest you get from home depot.
high pressure steel tubing is high pressure steel tubing,
it dont need to say naaawwws on it
and wires are wires

you can actually use a fire extinguisher bottle for your nitrous,you just need to change the fitting,yep same bottle
Old 08-31-02, 10:57 PM
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First off, mperformance, it is quite obvious you have never run n2o in a rotary. I have and do. There is no way you will hit 12's with a streetported 13B with a wet 100 shot, much less a stock port 12a. Understand this, it is not possible in any way, shape, or form. I challenge you to do it and prove me wrong.

Second, a "200hp" FB will not get into 12's period. You are starting off with a 16 second car, at best.

Please quit trying to misinform the forum members. You are not giving anyone any "insight".
Old 08-31-02, 11:19 PM
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Technically, a 200hp car, lightened to less than 1800lbs, and with perfect traction, would achieve 12-second quarter mile times. That would mean a back-halved car in my book. So a 12 second FB is possible, just not in street trim, unless a tubbed car is street trim to you.

No I do not see it happening in any stock type rear end FB, but it is in the realm of possibility.

That said, I do not see anybody here achieving it, (maybe PeeJay would)
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no even then weight doesn't make up for lack of hp or torque. I don't see a fb hitting 12's with out boost.
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DIdn't I say it was just to get this thing rolling?

damn you guys...

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Is there not a Carbed GSL-SE on the juice running 11's or something on the drag circuit. If I remeber correctly. I think it was white. Anyway, according to my calculations a 1800lb car will run high 12's with 200 hp to the wheels and perfect everything else.
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isnt this thread missing a page?
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got lost in space...crash remember?!
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thats right,
should i repost that ET calculator?


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