lexx247

I have a sa 79 1st gen. It has a 12a with a ported exast with no 'cat, a r b intake and a holley 650 carb. I'm thinking of getting a camden 7 inch suercharger and using a draw through set up. Then I found a e-racing super e-ram-inline (elecrtic supercharger for intake set up, that produces 1.7 psi) that I could put on for a lil added power.
But then I realized if i did all this I would'nt have room because all of this set up would be verical and theres not enough clearance under my hood. Unless I make a molded functioning hood scoop.
So if i do all of this I would have a hoodscoop on top with a filter. Then under that the super e-ram-inline. Then the 650 carb and then the 7 inch camden super charger.
What do you guys think about that whole set up? Idk how much psi I would be running 'cause I don't know how much psi the 7 inch super makes. But I do know its between 6 and 11. So whatever the 7 inch produces plus 1.7 from the e-ram is what I'll be running.
Does anyone know what psi i would have?
Also, what do u guys think about that whole set up?

heres the camden 7 inch
http://www.camdensuperchargers.com/index.php?pag=402
heres the e-ram
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/supereram2.php

I might be able to make a hood scoop out a oem 99gst eclipse carbonfiber hood I have. I might be able to cut out the raised bump the hood has and mold that into a scoop. Then I can bolt that onto the hood and paint the rest of the hood black.

lexx247

It might even be possible too have a e-ram on the filter and a super e-ram between that and the carb. That would make it 3 superchargers. With 2.7 psi + the psi created by the 7inch camden.

Alex-7

Do not buy an electric supercharger.

Do not make a hood scoop out of an eclipse either.

Your carb is too big.

You have bad ideas.


I wish you the best of luck.

Alex-7

If you add a 2 psi electric pos to a setup already running 6-8 psi is will NOT add more boost. It will simply be in the way.

If you're walking into a 30 mile per hour head wind and you fart, it does not make the air behind you move any faster.

Think about it.

And when you're ready. post this smiley:

lexx247

yes i agree but thats in reg driving conditions but during wot ie racing they will all spool up and creat boost.

mar3

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One, Superchargers don't "spool up"... ... Two, they will each create boost, but not in summation as you think...plus detonation becomes a problem w/o some kind of intercooler in there somewhere....stock internals? Just the Camden is pushing your luck...the electric thing is an internet lie, BTW...

Dan_s_young

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Electronic devices like this really make me laugh. There is a reason why REAL race cars use REAL mechanical devices to create REAL horsepower.

Siraniko

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re-inventing the wheel is costly!!

rotor vs. piston

Actually if you put the tornado in your air filter housing with the electric supercharge you would have more power than you could you use.

DriftFB

Forget the e-charger, get a VTEC head. Then you will have mad boost yo.

rotor vs. piston

trochoid

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And the damn thing draws 120 amps to spin the little fans. I can see it now, hit the boost switch, gives you greater STOPPING power, when the amperage draw kills the ignition.

If you buy that thing, I have some prime real estate in the 9th Ward you might be interested in.

Dan_s_young

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120 amp draw, hahaha halarious....

aussiesmg

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A stock FB alt puts out 55 amp, are you starting to see any problems yet, keep the ideas coming man, but trust in these guys, they have done it all before you.

The Camden seems like a good idea, expensive and wont make the HP of a turbo but has no lag and sounds freaking cool.

LOL

lexx247

Hmm. Well I'm gonna do it anyway I planned on the camden 7nich either way. Also I got some money to blow and this is all for fun anyway. So I'll do it and tell you guys what happened. You never know it might work we'll see. Thanks for the advice tho not saying I don't beleive any of you guys I just want to see what happens. Not sayin you guys are wrong you guys sure as hell know more then me but this'll be a experiment. Lets get to work.

Dan_s_young

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Hope you are planning like a 200 amp alternator upgrade. I would just go for the camden personally... But if you decide to waste 600 dollars, its your money. It could be put into suspension etc. Either way i'd like to see how it turns out!

Alex-7

No. We do know. THEY WILL NOT WORK TOGEATHER LIKE YOU THINK THEY WILL.

THINK about it.

Rx Seven

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Just do the the supercharger and maybe some type of after cooler or water/methonal injection. You should never waste youe money on those electric gagets.

Look at it this way if the supercharger pulling pushing 6+ psi and you put something smaller in its path it will only pull less. Blowing into the back of a fan pushing air will not make the air being blown any faster. Oh well its your money!

mar3

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This sums it up nicely...there is a reason why you don't see that combo in the Mazdatrix, Racing Beat or Mazdaspeed catalogs. There's a reason you don't see it used in ANY form of racing.

And these guys and gals do nothing but think of ways of making a rotary powered car faster and have at least 1500X the budget you do to explore new ideas and implement controlled experiments to see if they work.

Think about it.

But if you do plan on wasting your time with this, then leave $225 available to document any gains in HP. $75 of that will be used to do a chassis dyno run TODAY or next week to get a baseline number. Then go back after JUST the Camden install and use another $75 to do another chassis dyno run then. Finally, do the "electric turbo" chicanery and then use the last $75 for the final dyno chassis run and then post the dyno results sheets in this thread. No butt dyno or "Yee-haw!! It's so much faster!!"-driving impressions, please, they don't mean squat.

wecycle

Many aircraft and a few autos have used sequential compressors.
the complecity of such systems is usually not worth the trouble.
If you want motre boost just change the drive pulley on the Camden.
For more than about 7 lbs boost you will need something for charge air cooling.
Water injection or alcohol injection would be appropriate and most likely premium grade fuel.

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress (with pictures)

rotor vs. piston

ahem, I think we were trying to discourage this idea...

And yes sequentail turbos, twin turbos, super chargers, twin super chargers, and even a turbo and super charger have been bolted to a single engine. An electric supercharger that makes (2psi???) is not worth the weight and current draw...especially not worth the work to get it to work on a carbed engine (they're built for FI intake tubes). Just save the money that you would spend on the electric SC and get an intercooler and smaller pully for the camden.

alex_the_hipple

There's very rarely a "you never know" with physics.

autocrash

"A fool and his money... "

I mean, hey, you've got money to blow? ...thats interesting, I've got projects to finance... and school... School where you learn things, things such as Alex the Hipple said: There's very rarely a "you never know" with physics

...funny how the same statement applies to fluid dynamics... and thermo...

Good luck... can't wait to see the results...


....LMAO

cptpain

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the "electronic superchagers" can only be used in short burts because it uses up your battery like nobodys business....they are nothing but a small leaf blower motor anyway...just crap!

IanS

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I dont know man, I kinda like my eclipse bump on my 7. Hell, I even like the fornt bumper from an eclipse on my 7. I used '90 parts though...

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