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Hello, my name is Dave and I'm a Rotoraholic
First, I just want to say thanks to the people responsible for the forum and to all of the helpful members. I have gathered a huge amount of info for my '84 GS and just about every question I could think of has already been answered in detail.
Now on to the good stuff!
I recently bought this 1984 GS from a semi-retired gentleman for $2,800. It has 91,000 miles and it is bone stock. He kept the car in a heated garage since he bought it new, and aside from a loose antenna mast and a leaky washer fluid bottle, the car is perfect. I could tell that the guy really loved the car, but he decided to sell because he could not invest the time to take care of it. He said the only reason he sold it to me was the fact that I had no plans to modify it and would keep it in a garage. Since I have owned two FC's I was able to "talk rotary" with him, and I think that made an impression as well.
Believe me, there is nothing more I would like to do than yank the rats nest, slap on a RB exhaust and juice up the carb, but I just can't bring myself to do it because the car is in such of a good original shape (the driver's side keyhole still glows when you pull the handle up). The pics show the car just as I bought it, but they really don't do it any justice (even the brown interior is growing on me).
So, that's my story. I'm looking forward to spending some time on the 1st gen. boards with you guys.
Later,
Dave
First, I just want to say thanks to the people responsible for the forum and to all of the helpful members. I have gathered a huge amount of info for my '84 GS and just about every question I could think of has already been answered in detail.
Now on to the good stuff!
I recently bought this 1984 GS from a semi-retired gentleman for $2,800. It has 91,000 miles and it is bone stock. He kept the car in a heated garage since he bought it new, and aside from a loose antenna mast and a leaky washer fluid bottle, the car is perfect. I could tell that the guy really loved the car, but he decided to sell because he could not invest the time to take care of it. He said the only reason he sold it to me was the fact that I had no plans to modify it and would keep it in a garage. Since I have owned two FC's I was able to "talk rotary" with him, and I think that made an impression as well.
Believe me, there is nothing more I would like to do than yank the rats nest, slap on a RB exhaust and juice up the carb, but I just can't bring myself to do it because the car is in such of a good original shape (the driver's side keyhole still glows when you pull the handle up). The pics show the car just as I bought it, but they really don't do it any justice (even the brown interior is growing on me).
So, that's my story. I'm looking forward to spending some time on the 1st gen. boards with you guys.
Later,
Dave
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Another example of why any relationship with an '80's car is alway love/hate. I love your car, don't get me wrong. but what were the people smoking when the chose colors?
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Thanks for the kind replies
Yeah, I was suprised to see a/c and cruise on the GS package also. A good friend of mine had a '82 GS and it didn't have either of those options. Maybe it has something to do with the 84-85 models? I was kind of dissappointed when he told me the car was brown on brown, but after I saw it up close for the first time I told myself I could get used to it. The first words my wife said when I brought it home was "Nice car, but it's brown." lol.
Yeah, I was suprised to see a/c and cruise on the GS package also. A good friend of mine had a '82 GS and it didn't have either of those options. Maybe it has something to do with the 84-85 models? I was kind of dissappointed when he told me the car was brown on brown, but after I saw it up close for the first time I told myself I could get used to it. The first words my wife said when I brought it home was "Nice car, but it's brown." lol.
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very clean. nice. As far as keeping it stock, theres nothing wrong with letting it breath. Its not like your stripping it out, and painting #69 on the doors.
RB exhaust
Yaw carb
Holley fuel pump
This is what i have, my car looks pretty much stock, but it dosent drive stock.
RB exhaust
Yaw carb
Holley fuel pump
This is what i have, my car looks pretty much stock, but it dosent drive stock.
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My first 7 was a -SE black with maroon interior, while your really driving the car the color of anything doesn't matter, though when it's parked I was always wanting to do something about it.
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Nice looking car. I don't think you should feel bad about any of the upgrades you mentioned. Unless you plan to keep it as a bone-stock show car, go for it. You can do a lot and still have it looking like it does now on the outside.
Oh, and welcome aboard.
Oh, and welcome aboard.
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all I have to say is make sure you do justice to that car!! very sweet, clean and sexy if you ask me!! the brown interior is better at least I think than that nasty *** burgandy brown stuff...but is easily paintable...sweet car! take care of her!!
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Congrats on an excellent find. I'm also a purist who believes keeping things stock is better long-term. But this doesn't mean we can't do performance and longevity-enhancing changes, as long as they're reversable and you hang on to the original components.
A racing beat exhaust system will provide an immediately-noticeable performance boost, and swapping in a stock '79 to '82 short rad/ under-rad oil cooler in place of the beehive will keep the engine running cooler and increase engine life span. An oil metering pump adapter with a separate 2-cycle oil reservior to supply the OMP (rather than lubing apex seals with not-very-clean-burning 4-cycle oil from the oil pan) will keep apex and side seals from becoming plugged with carbon over time, keeping compression up where it belongs and extending engine life. I've done both of these mods on my '85 GSL and have no regrets.
A racing beat exhaust system will provide an immediately-noticeable performance boost, and swapping in a stock '79 to '82 short rad/ under-rad oil cooler in place of the beehive will keep the engine running cooler and increase engine life span. An oil metering pump adapter with a separate 2-cycle oil reservior to supply the OMP (rather than lubing apex seals with not-very-clean-burning 4-cycle oil from the oil pan) will keep apex and side seals from becoming plugged with carbon over time, keeping compression up where it belongs and extending engine life. I've done both of these mods on my '85 GSL and have no regrets.
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I don't know. It is getting so there are very few pristine, stock SA's and FB's out there. While most of us have modded our cars, the value of clean stock first gens seems to be on the rise of late.
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Thanks for the great feedback everyone. I'm glad to see some opinions on keeping the car stock. I might have to keep this one in the garage and start looking for a daily driver to tinker with
I do have a question about the RB exhaust though. I see that they have a complete system for stock-port and one for street-port engines. The main difference seems to be a single pre-silencer for stock and dual silencers for street-port (which also eliminates the factory connector pipe). RB didn't give any numbers for hp gain, but they did say that the street-port exhaust could be used on a stock engine. Has anyone seen both systems in action on a stock-port engine, or do you know if there is an advantage to either system?
I do have a question about the RB exhaust though. I see that they have a complete system for stock-port and one for street-port engines. The main difference seems to be a single pre-silencer for stock and dual silencers for street-port (which also eliminates the factory connector pipe). RB didn't give any numbers for hp gain, but they did say that the street-port exhaust could be used on a stock engine. Has anyone seen both systems in action on a stock-port engine, or do you know if there is an advantage to either system?
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With the Racing Beat exhaust system, Hp gain will be about 10 to 12%, and while I'm not familiar with the streetport system it makes sense that it would have two presilencers instead of one--- These exhaust systems are louder than stock, and the more the engine is ported the louder they are. I'm one of the few on here who prefer quiet and inconspicuous-to-law-enforcement-types exhaust tones, but if you can tolerate a little background nois... er, music, this is a viable option.
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actually RB claims there full stockport exhaust to gain 22% hp at 7000 RPM
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16417
Maybe this is an over estimate? But racing beat seems to be a very reliable company... I think there honest, what could be better for an old engine than letting it breath better?
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16417
Maybe this is an over estimate? But racing beat seems to be a very reliable company... I think there honest, what could be better for an old engine than letting it breath better?
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Originally Posted by Dan_s_young
actually RB claims there full stockport exhaust to gain 22% hp at 7000 RPM
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16417
Maybe this is an over estimate? But racing beat seems to be a very reliable company... I think there honest, what could be better for an old engine than letting it breath better?
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16417
Maybe this is an over estimate? But racing beat seems to be a very reliable company... I think there honest, what could be better for an old engine than letting it breath better?
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wow! 22% is unreal!.
personally i plan on doing the same thing i did years ago to my old 7. this is an 85 gsl 12a
rb headers, straight pipe to a "cherry bomb" style muffler (center of car in place of catalytic convertors), then all custom bent over the axle to a straight through muffler.
yeah, it was loud, but it sounded nice, deep, and it was cheap. the only problem was the muffler in the middle of the car would burn out sooo quickly, and had to be replaced about every 10,000 kms..but they're only about $40 anyways. this time around i may use some type of presilencer (resonator) or something instead, but still use a straight through muffler on the back.
i estimate total cost to be under $500 (with a new rb header).
nick
personally i plan on doing the same thing i did years ago to my old 7. this is an 85 gsl 12a
rb headers, straight pipe to a "cherry bomb" style muffler (center of car in place of catalytic convertors), then all custom bent over the axle to a straight through muffler.
yeah, it was loud, but it sounded nice, deep, and it was cheap. the only problem was the muffler in the middle of the car would burn out sooo quickly, and had to be replaced about every 10,000 kms..but they're only about $40 anyways. this time around i may use some type of presilencer (resonator) or something instead, but still use a straight through muffler on the back.
i estimate total cost to be under $500 (with a new rb header).
nick