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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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lucas oil stabelizer

hey i know this has been disscussed many time on this forum but i was searching thru some of the old threads and most ppl said they thought it was good and a couple people said they thought it might mess with the omp, so this is the question does it do anything bad for the omp, and does it seem to burn out of the combustion chamber???? any input would be great....thanks
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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It won't harm the mop. How well it burns in the combustion chamber, I can't answer that one. All of the engine lubes will burn at some point, what they do or don't leave behind is just as important as thier lubication properties.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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has anyone who used it had an engine faliure (or anything else go wrong) directly resulting from using lucas oil stabilizer?

I want to use it just as a temporary fix before I rebuild my engine.

Thanks
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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The stuff is magic. I was going to rebuild due to a smoke screen that I would get when decellerating, but tried the Lucas as a last ditch effort and haven't had an issue in a few thousand miles. I highly recommend it, and I use it in everything now (even my lawnmower)...
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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ah yes,

it wouldn't be a lucas oil stabilizer thread without kentetsu chiming in.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rbf41182gt
ah yes,

it wouldn't be a lucas oil stabilizer thread without kentetsu chiming in.
he must get royalties for each positive post....
it is good stuff.. I need to increase the amount I used from my last oil change to fix my morning smoke screen..I used 1 quart LOS and the rest was RP 10w-30... so I'll up it to 2 quarts and maybe use the synthetic version of the LOS
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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I wouldn't use it. I tried it a month back, and a on a really cold morning, i swear i heard metal to metal noise (which i assumed was from oil not getting to the camber), so i turned it off, drained all of the oil out of it, and i swear i lost some power after ward (though I can't prove it)...

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Weasel
he must get royalties for each positive post....
it is good stuff.. I need to increase the amount I used from my last oil change to fix my morning smoke screen..I used 1 quart LOS and the rest was RP 10w-30... so I'll up it to 2 quarts and maybe use the synthetic version of the LOS
I would not use that much. No more than 1 quart. I think even that might be too much in a 4qt system. I put about 16 oz (or so) in my SE. I would think in Reno in the summer time you could get away with a little more. The stuff won't hardly pour on a 70 degree day. I'll report later if my smoke on startup gets better or not.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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it works wonders. i stopped getting a pool of oil on top of the mazda 12a logo on my enigne after i used it.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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OK I am a firm believer in this stuff. My car use to smoke on start up all the time. After using this stuff no more smoking out the neighborhood. I used a half a quart though.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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how long have you people who say it's "working wonders" been using it?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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[/QUOTE]I wouldn't use it. I tried it a month back, and a on a really cold morning, i swear i heard metal to metal noise (which i assumed was from oil not getting to the camber), so i turned it off, drained all of the oil out of it, and i swear i lost some power after ward (though I can't prove it)...

Alvin[QUOTE]

Lucas oil is disigned for really cold morning starts.

I use 2 quarts in everything I have! I have a 93 Infinity J30 that has 178000 miles on it and dosnt use any oil; I know its got to be from the lucas oil......
I was wondering if any of you think it would be ok for 3rd gen TT applications. (I believe in this stuff alot) I just wanted some feedback!
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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lol, no I do not receive royalties from them. I've been using it for over a year without issue. I decided that this stuff works by doing my own checking, not because of some add I read. I did a comparison against Castrol 20/50 on (of all things) a hedge trimmer.

My wife was trimming the hedges and it was making such a loud screeching noise I knew something was wrong. The entire blade was rusted and dry. I placed a few drops of castrol on one side of the blade (at the end of it) and a few drops of Lucas on the other side. When I started it up, the Lucas took off like a rocket and worked its way all the way to the other end of the blade in about thirty seconds or so. The castrol only made it a couple of inches. With the blade running, the Lucas got all "stringy" and was creating strings of oil between each of the blades as they moved, and it literally crawled the entire length of the blade while the castrol just kind of sat there.

To me, this says that the Lucas will work its way into the places that need it better than the castrol can. Like I said, I like it because I took the time to check out its actual performance, but everybody is of course welcome to their own opinions. And by the way, my engine has never been rebuilt. It has just a hair under 200,000 miles on it and does not smoke, drip, or anything like that. I had all of these issues before I started using the lucas. I'm sold on it, but as I said, to each his own.

One more thing, concerning the safety of use in a rotary. Another member wrote them and asked the question. He posted their reply which stated that it was absolutely safe, even with the use of the omp/mop system. You can probably find his post by searching the forum. Hope this helps to answer your questions.

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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I just tried it, and it seems to work ok. I still get a little smoke at startup (less than before though), and I still get smoke when I rev it about 5000 rpm. Actually, the smoke cloud hits after I shift it above 5k, and the rpm's drop. Don't know what that's all about, but I got an atkins rotary rotor rebuild kit in my room, so that should take care of it.

~b.k.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Smoking on high rpm deceleration is a symptom of bad oil control rings, or too much oil in the crankcase (overfilled). Worn oil control rings was the situation I was dealing with before I started using the Lucas.
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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I love those little Lucas oil demo thingies with the gears and cranks.

Guess I better add that I am a believer as well - in the 7 and in the jeep.
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rbf41182gt
ah yes,

it wouldn't be a lucas oil stabilizer thread without kentetsu chiming in.
I think he has stock in the company, hehehe
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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I think he has stock in the company, hehehe
lmao. No, but I'm starting to wish that I did. It just happens to be one of those products that works exactly as advertised (a rare find these days). It worked for me, so I'm willing to recommend it to people. After all, that's what this forum is for, right?
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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i am about to change my oil this weekend. And now you gyus have me all curious about this product. So I should use 1 quart of this stuff along with my Castrol 20/50 like i usually use? I do have a dowel pin leak and i would like to see if that helps it.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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as a start i put about .5 - .75 of a large bottle in.
DONT put it in first, OIL first. i've heard about trochoids mistake. it goes straight to the oil cooler. bad idea.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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I would run 2qts of oil, 3/4 of a quart of the lucas, then another quart of oil. Run and then check the level.

If your worried about how well it will burn for the injection just run about 4oz of a good premix to your full tank of gas. This way you know for sure your getting good lube!
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Wait hold on...i have always used 5.5 quarts of oil total? Is that what you guys use? Or am i using too much???
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Wait hold on...i have always used 5.5 quarts of oil total? Is that what you guys use? Or am i using too much???

I run 4 qts. total on a non turbo NA 13b. i would think 5.5 is way too much but it all depends on what the dip stick reads.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Yea 4 qts. and she's full for me! WOW 5.5 does seem like too much!Dont you check your dip stick? You'll be alright...... Has anyone tried "Lucas Semi-Synthetic 2-Cycle High Temp Racing Oil" for pre-mixing?
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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There is a discrepancy in the Haynes manual. In the main section it gives one amount, which is for the front mounted oil cooler system. In the back it gives an updated amount, which is smaller, for the beehive system. I found this out the hard way, and man was I blowing smoke bigtime until I drained some off.
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