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Old 12-23-05, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by foozberries
Heh, 333hp? <thats the new S54 I'm assuming. Try 347bhp and 409nm of torque. (s38b38) BMW's most powerful L6 every designed, and it was made in 1991 no less. Try that with forced induction and you have an engine that is capable of 1200hp. (its been done before too)
The 333 hp came from the E46 M3, the model just prior to the reskinning, that at least is the one that came state side. But the CSL M3 a Euro only model boosted 360 hp and 273 ft-lb or 370 nm for the metric people.

Their drivers maybe ********, but the cars no matter how over rated are still something to be admired. BMW made little to no money in the middle of the nineties or somewhere in there. And the reason was the were spending boco money in R and D. And in the end they have an awesome product. And as far as I am concerned thats what makes cars fun to drive. I personally don't want a cavalier or G6, no matter if it is "driving excitement". It's this sort of mentality that brought back the rotary in RX-8 guise.

So don't bash. Or if you do, maybe with a little more respect. eh?
Old 12-23-05, 12:11 PM
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I lover the newer BMW's. The styling has improved so much in the past 10 years. There are not that many newer cars that look better. BMW's also real good suspension - it handles like crazy. The only thing I don't like is their electrical and mechanical parts - the are not reliable at all after 5-6 yrs.
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If someone is that close to your rear just do a power brake like you were at the dragstrip and leave them in a cloud of smoke. For one they won't be able to see and two you'll leave a bunch of burnt rubber on the front of their car, that stuffs a pain in the *** to clean up. And yes I have done this on more than one occasion. Usually it doesn't bother me but there are those times when tailgaters just seem to get on your nerves.
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BMW's and Mercedes make me think of Sgt Schultz on Hogan Heroes. Ponderous , heavy, bloated, stuffy.........very stuffy.
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worse than that, try working on the dammed things, and like when you get down working on it the owner doesn't want to pay you...WTF I spent 25 hours doing a head gasket gasket job on one of the BMW v-8's and the ****** decided not to pay me when I was 390% done (I do hourly rates for non jappanese cars) so I let it sit for 2 months, until the base legal told me to finish it or stop working on cars as a side business, well needless to say I told them to **** off, and just moved my business form the auto hobby over to my house out in town the ****** that owned the bmw was not happy.

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this was meant to show the mentality of the owner, not the car. but they are a PITA to work on, getting data and schematics for them are a pain, and they honestly use more "special" tools than any other engine I have worked on
Old 12-23-05, 01:29 PM
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Bimmers are great, I love the lights, the performance is great, and I think they sound perfect with an aftermarket exhst. Plus the cars aren't too expensive, a slightly used E46 328 can be bought for like 20K

Only problems are that they're not easy to work with, and the E46 has a really bad chassis problem.
Old 12-24-05, 01:44 AM
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i love bimmers...i just got one in sept to match my SE...



Old 12-24-05, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthrax Mike
Not all bimmers cost 50 grand plus. And there is something sexy about a striaght six.

>pondering<

I'd bet it'd fit into my rex.

Put your mind into the gutter and think for a minute about what you said.
Old 12-24-05, 06:24 AM
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BMW's are very well engineered cars... but the people who drive them are usually the problem (not in all cases) - they buy them so their friends think they are cool etc.

I never have problems with people tailgating ;-) be it at night or during the day. First of all after sitting behind me for a while and breathing my fumes they drop back - ALWAYS , and the fuel cut on decel does some wonders for flaming and popping ;-)

If I'm decelling and select a gear which will have me decel from around about 3000-4000rpm, then just push a tiny bit on my throttle I get a lot of popping and then some sudden loud bangs out the rear people change lanes or get smaller in the rear view

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Originally Posted by Rob.W
Put your mind into the gutter and think for a minute about what you said.
Ha. Christ. It took me longer than I'm willing to admit to get that.

Thank god I didn't bring up anything about liking a slant six.
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LOL -- in all honesty though a slant six is one of the more reliable designs out there.

My '80 Aspen was one of my first cars I actually SOLD instead of hauled off, thanks to that 225. It had NO vacuum lines, bad brakes, dents all over, and the steering felt wobbly, but for $100 it ran, and in all the time I had it, I beat the CRAP out of it, never died. Love those slants as much as I love thos inlines.
Old 12-25-05, 12:12 PM
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my winter car is a BMW but its a 733i, and the same colours as my rx-7, I think its kind of funny how that worker out, but I hate those a$$holes to, I like to drive really slowuntill they try to pass, and then as soon a they pull out to pass put it to the floor and make sure they gotta go back behind you and then go slow again, I usually do this until I feel justified of they get really pissed and go another way
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733i? Mind if I ask an OBDII related question?

Back when I worked at emission control I totally couldn't take the OBDII panel off of a 7 series without breaking it. Literally I never could take it off without it snapping, and everybody at the station was the same way.

How the hell do you take that panel off without it breaking?!
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Originally Posted by SparkienSuggah
i hate BMW headlamps when driving either my RX or my MKII supra, cause the lights are aimed right into my face.. if i want such a stable person i would go postal and shoot out the lights on all bimmers.

and merc's are shiny and heavy... might as well buy a pickup truck painted boring-***-beige and install seat heaters.
thats the auto leveling HID projectors, RX8s have them too. doesnt always level right
Old 12-25-05, 03:28 PM
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though I have nothing against BMWs, in fact I love them, the only sure way i have found to get ppl off your tail in traffic is to BRAKE CHECK THEIR ***!
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Originally Posted by Anthrax Mike
I think I'd take 333 natural aspirated horse power out of a six cylinder, no matter what shape it comes in. I dig the fact that BMW will not just throw a blower, or a turbo onto an engine to boost its output.

And their rear wheel drive, that already makes them better than a honda.

My bad, 360 hp and 270 ft-lb. Terribly overrated indeed. I don't think I'll ever care to own one of those.
I agree 100% BMW are some of the most sophisicated cars on the road and people just hate on how great they actually are. Love the way their L6 sound!
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BMW's kinda grow on you, I see prolly 200 a day in Bellevue,WA. I don't feel the people that drive them are tools, what Im trying to say is if your driving a mid 80's car and want to race a 2005 BMW I would laugh at you also.
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Originally Posted by Anthrax Mike
. . . the[y] were spending boco money in R and D.
Beaucoup.

Good reasonable posts on the subject. Some of the others here are apparently doing their level best to get shot in a road rage incident.

-dave

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Originally Posted by Wodihor
Well this is a small rant. <snip>
thinking that they are better than me.

Why would you asume that?
Your lack of logic is dizzying.

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