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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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I don't believe it...

... I found myself looking @ the prototype seats for the proposed SMART roadster, thinking "Those would look good in an FB"...



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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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Hmmm.... maybe
Those are just waaaaaay too modern for my car.
Are they hard plastic? They sure look like it.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 12:51 AM
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 01:02 AM
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whats a smart roadster
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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They're clay. This is a concept buck.

The SMART is a car made by Daimler-Chrysler for the European market, 2.5m long (about 7 2/3 feet) that is really boxy but "practical" as a commuter car.

The SMART roadster is a low slung 2 seater concept based on the same platform, and from some angles doesn't look 1/2 bad.







Remember: this car is less than 8 feet long...

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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 01:46 AM
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Hmmm.... that looks..... weird....

It'd be the kinda styling that you'd either love or hate.

But those seats... are....

UGLY!

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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 01:49 AM
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the whole center part of the seat is mesh (at least they are on the other seat design in the production SMART). Ultra light-weight & functional.

I guess that's why I like 'em
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 01:50 AM
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Interesting concept, I think its not too bad, especially considering the other sub-compacts that they have going on in europe. (When I was in russia, they still had these nasty little cars that looked like you could push them faster than the little 2 cyl engine could pull it... LOL)
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 02:44 AM
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Oh yeah, that's ******* sweet! Too bad it's a concept, and too bad it's not available here.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 03:54 AM
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The Smart roadster is not just a concept, they really will produce it. Actually they already do. I saw one in Aachen, Germany, last weekend, with saying "test car" on it. Ain't that cool?
Anyway, the roadster and roadster coupe are based on the original Smart (now called CitySmart) and use the same triton-safetycage, and engine. But as far as I know they are longer then the original. And lower, too. I found that car extremely low compared to the original Smart. It does look great though. If you know big Mercedes-enz cars, you'll also know Brabus, the famous Merc-tuner (they have 7.something liter V12's). Well, they offer a performance mod on the 3 cylinder Smart engine...
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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yep, more than a concept ... my mate saw a few when he was on holiday somewhere (can't think of the name right now )
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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If I needed new seats really bad, and if those were a lot lighter, and if got them for cheap......then hell, I'd put them in.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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Not surprised Brabus has an option on that li'l 60 HP 3 banger... but wouldn't a TII rotary in that chassis be sweet?

I did some more digging and you're right, the roadster is longer - instead of the standard SMART length, it's a massive 7.5 feet long
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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How heavy are the seats compared to stock 3rd gen ones? Would they be lighter than say some recaro bucket racing seats???
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Its all well and good to save the environment and make less pollution, buy why does saving the environment have to be so ******* ugly? There hasn't been a concept car, hybrid car, or electric motor car that didn't look like a terd that was squeezed out of a square *******. These new cars are all so squatty and boxy looking its rediculous. Why can't they look like '89 trans ams?

Just my $.02
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Project84
Why can't they look like '89 trans ams?
Because 89 Trans Ams are ugly! IMHO, that is. I think it would be great if there was one that looked like a '68 Fury... I would love to see a hybrid engine pull that chassis around If not that, at least a '69 Roadrunner
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Well, obviously, taste is very personal...
As for TII into Smart...have a go. I'm knda thinking you'll need a trailer to mount the engine on though.
Smarts have pretty small engines, even a rotary is big there. Maybe a special single rotor would fit? They're too expensive too mess with so I'm not gonna try...
Anyone else?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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They''re only $16,000 USD... and think of the power to weight ratio.

It would be a tight squeeze, though. Perhaps a 13B N/A would be more appropriate (and still more than double the shetland ponies under the hood currently)
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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10.5' long

http://www.carenthusiast.com/ncar2509/smart_s.htm

lotsa room, stick a 20B in there
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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I was thinking of the "real" smart, and I believe that would leave less room for the 20B :-)
I think $16.000 pretty heavy for car this size and engine... Plus the 13B (or wathever rotary you put in there)... And, they're front drive...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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I'd take a set of those seats except that clay probably wouldn't be my fabric of choice That and it looks like the head restraint portion of the seat is cocked forward quite a bit.

I think MBenz had a seat in which the center section was mesh. I think that would be great - the ultimate in breathability and comfort. My old office chair was made of mesh and I could surf the web all day in that thing
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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it's actually rear wheel drive. The engine is in back, between the rear wheels, and on the Daimler Chrysler site they state "rear wheel drive" (http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/index.../ias2000_e.htm)

if one were to get one and replace the engine with a 13B, sure there's the cost of the rotary but you still have the 3 gyl Mercedes SUPREX turbo engine that you could unload on a Chevette or Festiva owner to recoup some $
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Sorry, my mistake... Of course rear wheel drive... It's just that the link DJ Rotor gave us, there it states FWD, and I didn't think hard enough... Plenty of Smarts (citysmarts) overhere, so I should have remembered...
Anyway, same problem: everything is in the rear end, how you are going to mate the 13B to the Smart gearbox??? If you try, let us know! It would gve some serious power to weight ratio...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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Probably have to ditch the 6-speed gearbox in there, as it's only rated for 60 HP... might use the gearbox out of a new Mini or something...
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