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Old 04-05-04, 10:24 AM
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how much is to much rpm

new to rotaries, do these engines react well to high rpm reving, such as consistant accel. to 6-7K or will this do harm?
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thats what they do best...some guys reve them to like 9 grand and dont have any problems...if your engine in an 81 or newer rev like snot....if its <'81 keep it to the red line
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naw, ive had mine up to 8000k+ on accident, and no harm done. most peple will tell you 8500 is the limit, then you start to bend the stationary gears and hit the housings.

plus, every now and then, redline will help clear carbon out which helps it out.
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Theres a red line on the tach for a reason. On my '85 GS the N/A 12A pulls real nice until about 6500 with a redline covering the area between 7 and 8 thousand.

I hear that the engines can go safely up to 9000, but when the tach stops at 8000 and power falls off by 7000, theres really no need to try that out.

It's not that different from a piston engine. The red lines and danger marks on the guages work the same way.Don't let the car exceed those limits unless you are damn sure of what you're doing.
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when i dyno'd my 12a with only exhaust, it was still making power when i shut it down at 7k. im not saying it makes power for ever, or even up to 8500, but i have had it up there on accident at autox's and there have been no probablys 5000 miles later
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my son's GSL is an 84 12a automatic, and it seems the only way to get it to get up and go is to rev it out. does this seem normal or could there be another issue. This things seems like a dog when you accelerate normally, but when you crank the rpms it seems a lot zippier.
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In any automatic there is a substantial loss of hp from the torque converter as much as 15 or 20% in some cases.
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get rid of the auto box and swap in a manual.....if your kid cant drive a manual...well every man should know how to drive a manual so i guess its kinda your duty to teach him!
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ive had my 83 up to 7800, i was showing off in front of some friends,doing a burn out, and i did not pay attention to the tach, i could not even tell it was up that high till I looked down, but i have not had any problems since
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the plan is to swap in a 5 speed after he's figured out how to drive. Let's face it, kids have got enough to concentrate on when they start to drive, why add a clutch into the equation if you don't have too. Thanks for all the advice,

Rev on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol I like this dad! Rev on!!!!!!!!1!!!

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It's like riding a bike for the first time. I never had training wheels. I also learned how to drive a stick before I got my driver's liecense.

Teach him basic car driving skills in an empty parking lot. Clutch or no clutch, it won't really matter if he's just starting to learn to drive. Kids can learn a lot faster than we give them credit for (I feel old now).
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the stock 12a can handle brief excursions to the 5 digit RPM zone with no problems... dont ask me how i know hehe 8500 is the generally accepted maximum safe RPM however.
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i punch my s2 1982 12a out to about 9-10k in second and its still pulling odd i know but it does it in second first runs out at 8 second runs out at about 120km's and thats around 9.5/ 10k

ive had it 2 and a half years and my dad had it and reved it out the same way before hand still runs like a dream minus the gear box they dont like much more then 8 i think

p.s nice fourm im a regular ausrotary user first time here its tops
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dude, 10,000 rpm? If your motor is stock, i hope you have a scattershield...
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scattershield?
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yes, it stops your flywheel from busting into the car when it comes loose and cutting your legs off or sending shrapnel careening into your liver and spleen and nuts.
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Haha, thats not really that funny, but yea that about what happens... Eventhough it is pretty far away! That would not be pleasent.
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How does one determine where 8500/9000 rpm is when the tach in my '85 GS only makes it around to 8000rpm??
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one can tell by the engine's pich and tone after the tach stops. i guess its really a guestimate. that or one has an aftermarket tach hooked up.
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The one time I put my 83 in the red I lost a seal on the rear rotor.

Before I drive my new one hard I am getting a very bit tach with a 500W shift light.
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wow, that was a nice description of a scattershield
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Yeah, did any body ever see it happen?
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why wont my 84 12a rev past 8k, i've had it up there plenty of times and it still pulls to it but it wont go past it, why?
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Its saving your ***.


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