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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 09:26 AM
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Help Me Guys!!!

Ok spin-heads... I had recently acquired a 13B engine (turns out the motor had a broken seal too DAMMIT). So I dragged my *** over to T & R racing to talk to guys about rebuilding my current engine one last time.
Turns out that for what I want done (If the motor is gonna get popped open, may as well port it too right?). Well after we talked at length about all the different options I have for rebuild the CHEAPEST option that included any type of engine modding would run me about $2100 DAMMIT AGAIN
Now this is where I need yous (yes that is a word) help. I have seen online several places that sell complete engines with all the options you want. For example Atkins Rotary sells the 84 - 85 13B for 1650 PLUS 300 for porting. (I am going with a carbed 13B cause I want more power).
Now heres the question: Where can I get a FRESHLY built and ported (street or bridge) 84-85 carbed 13B from and preferebly a place that will ship the damn engine and that is at the very least on the North american continent.
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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After searching for you all day, all I can say is that you'll have to settle for a used engine.

They just don't make em brand new these days. Or at least I can't find em...

Good luck with your search...

Oh... go here to find some good used engines
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 07:58 PM
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Now heres the question: Where can I get a FRESHLY built and ported (street or bridge) 84-85 carbed 13B from and preferebly a place that will ship the damn engine and that is at the very least on the North american continent.
isnt it a 6 port motor since it is 84-85? you cant doo bridge porting unless t&r can on a 6 port design...... you would have to go for a turbo motor block or a older style.....
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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Rx7Passion if I remeber correctly the 13Bs in the 84-85 are 4 port designs and I know for a FACT that they are carbureted. So Far I have found ONE place in canada that sells rebuilt engines and they will ship.
Hows $1225 + $300 for porting grab you fellas?
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 11:20 PM
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WRONG old school 13b's are 4 port 84-85's are 6 port and so are all other than turbos after the rx-7 came out. and old school 13b's were carbed but not rx7 13b's
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 11:32 PM
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I guess Im wrong then.... Now getting back to the whole reason of this thread: If you know any NORTH AMERICAN COMPANIES that sell rebuilt engines post them up here.
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Old Sep 6, 2001 | 12:15 AM
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Ummmmm..... Atkins rotary fits the bill.... why not them?
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Old Sep 7, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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What about using 12A side housings and 13B rotor housings?
That'll get you a 4-port 13B. While you are at it, do the 3mm Apex seals and the lighter rotors with higher compression.

No, I'm crazy.

'84-85 13B are out of GSLSEs, and definately 6-port, which limits the effectiveness of porting.

I'll state the obvious since it is in line with your question:

Mazdatrix
Racing Beat
Rotory Performance
Power House Engineering
nippon-motors.com (used) T2 only
MazdaRecycling.com (used and rebuilt)
Yaw Power Products
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Old Sep 7, 2001 | 01:53 PM
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yeah - the REPU has a carb'd 4port 13b.

the GSL-SE 13b is an EFI 6port.
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Old Sep 7, 2001 | 02:30 PM
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$1200 for a rebuilt engine is ****** cheap. Especially considering that a good engine seal set is upwards of 900 bucks in itself.

See what new parts they use in those engines.
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Old Sep 9, 2001 | 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary-MG
What about using 12A side housings and 13B rotor housings?
That'll get you a 4-port 13B. While you are at it, do the 3mm Apex seals and the lighter rotors with higher compression.
'84-85 13B are out of GSLSEs, and definately 6-port, which limits the effectiveness of porting.

Where can I get info on 'creating' a 4 port 13B by using several 12a parts?
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Old Sep 10, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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All you really need to do is rebuild a GSL-SE motor but use 12A side housings and viola! you have a 4 port 13B. (I plan on doing the same thing in my GS). I'm looking into maybe building a 13BT motor but using high compression rotors so I can carb it. BTW, the turbo motors have huge exhaust ports so you would only need to port the intake ports.

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Old Sep 10, 2001 | 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by puaka
All you really need to do is rebuild a GSL-SE motor but use 12A side housings and viola! you have a 4 port 13B. (I plan on doing the same thing in my GS). I'm looking into maybe building a 13BT motor but using high compression rotors so I can carb it. BTW, the turbo motors have huge exhaust ports so you would only need to port the intake ports.
So if thats the case.... Can I use the 12a headers with it too? And will an intake kit from a 12a fit (like a Holley or Weber) or do I have to get 13B headers and carby kits????
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Old Sep 10, 2001 | 06:04 PM
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The width of the 13B rotor housing would make the exhaust ports sit further apart than the 12A. So I don't think the 12A header would work. Note that all headers for sale mention that they are either for a 12A or 13B.

You can buy intake adapters for around $150 that would let you use the 12A intakes on either 4 or 6 port 13B engine.

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