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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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Headlights go up but do not come down

My headlights go up but they do not come down. I was wondering where should I start troubleshooting. It a 85 gls-se
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Make sure the toggle switch beside the steering wheel isn't in the 'up' position.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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I know how to use the switch I think its a electrical problem what should I start checking.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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Been through the fuses?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:44 AM
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does your car have a switch also by the shifter? if so maybe the connection going to that came loose or something cuz same thing happend to me when i was setting up my sound system i accidently disconnected it.. i was going crazy until i found out that that was the problem..i was like im such a dumb *** haha
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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check your relays by the lights...same thing is wrong with my car right now, and its ust my relays by the lights motors.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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the lights will open and not close if the light switch to man. open them is unpluged. so check that out
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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I had the problem and traced it to the toggle switch not making good contact - if I pressed on the toggle at different points I would eventually find a spot where it would make positive contact and the lights would go down - most of the time it worked OK by just pushing the toggle switch, but when they would not go down, it was always the toggle switch not making a good contact

I would appreciate knowing if this is your problem, also
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:10 AM
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ok so tonight I was messing around and I went to the fuse box underneth the dash. The 10a tail illum fuse keep blowing out. When I put a fresh fuse in the headlights go down. So I put a 15a fuse in and it works but after i put it in I smelt a burning smell so I imediatly pulled the fuse and shut the ignition off. Has anbody else experinced this. Oh also my dash lights don't come on. But they were like that when I bought the car. Can anybody give any pointers on what to look for or what i should check. I bought the car in this condition hoping to fix it up.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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Well I didn't totally burn up the wires the connections still works I put a 10a fuse in with the ignition off and the lights go down. The fuse blows when the ignition is turned on. does anybody have any Ideas. After I get this gremlin fixed I will need to get the cluster lights to come on. Where should I start looking ?
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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tailights filled

Check to see if your tailights are filled with water, also check where the tailights go in, if either have water, shorts are a possibility. have somebody watch your brake lights, see if they work? do they blow a fuse, or is it just the running lights? do this first, and report back.

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7bj
ok so tonight I was messing around and I went to the fuse box underneth the dash. The 10a tail illum fuse keep blowing out. When I put a fresh fuse in the headlights go down. So I put a 15a fuse in and it works but after i put it in I smelt a burning smell so I imediatly pulled the fuse and shut the ignition off. Has anbody else experinced this. Oh also my dash lights don't come on. But they were like that when I bought the car. Can anybody give any pointers on what to look for or what i should check. I bought the car in this condition hoping to fix it up.
I had a similar problem when I had my cd player installed. It would blow any fuse at all placed into the slot though. It was caused by a bad ground, I got that fixed and now it works fine.

Also, if it is the same in my car as yours, when you fix the headlamps going down, the inside cluster lights should come on too. In my '84 GSL the tail lights, cluster lights, and headlamps were all through the same fuse.

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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how should I check the ground to the fues box do you know where it is
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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I don't know, the actual ground that was messing my headlamps, tail lights, and cluster lights up was the ground to my cd player. I just had the person who installed my cd player fix it since it was his fault.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Dude, before you go messing around with all these fuses and grounds, simply go to your driver's side strut tower and replace the Fusible Link (FL) that says 'Headlights'.

It's that simple.

The reason why your 10A fuse under the dash keeps blowing out is that the Fusible Link is no longer handling the 'startup' load applied to the electrical system from the motors actuating to raise the lids. When the lids are going up, and in motion, the motors draw much less current than when they are stopped and just start to move - same thing when they go down.

Replace that FL with the CORRECT color of FL, and it'll fix the problem without any other interaction required.

DO NOT attempt to 'build' a Fusible Link using standard wire - it will cause an electrical system fire, and could total your car and hurt you or someone else. Mazdatrix (www.mazdatrix.com) has the replacement links, or try your local wrecking yard. HTH,
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Normality_Glitch
I had a similar problem when I had my cd player installed. It would blow any fuse at all placed into the slot though. It was caused by a bad ground, I got that fixed and now it works fine.

Also, if it is the same in my car as yours, when you fix the headlamps going down, the inside cluster lights should come on too. In my '84 GSL the tail lights, cluster lights, and headlamps were all through the same fuse.
I agree with this. I installed a cd player in my '85 7 and used a wire that I found to be a ground. Turns out this wire is no longer a ground when the lights are turned on. I ran a new ground wire and fixed my fuse blowing problem. I also had the problem of the lights not going back down. When the fuse blew on my car I would lose the dash lights, parking lights, radio and the headlights would stay up.
my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Chack Fusible links
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