GSL-SE Life & Longevity?
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Start looking for a rebuild around 100k. Check compression before you buy, that is a must.
Now: here's the mod list:
Car is an 85 GS, red, no sunroof, 12a rebuilt at 120k. Currently at 160k miles. Rust free. This was a very nice daily driver, and I almost hated to modify it.
Weber 45 DCOE and manifold. The oil metering is disconnected so I premix with the gas.
Carter fuel pump, Holley regulator and gauge, plus misc parts for install.
Racing Beat Header and "Street Port" exhaust.
Eibach springs: Fronts are 260 lbs or so, and rears are 145 lbs or so. These are not coil overs. These are the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. They are slightly harsh on bumpy roads but tolerable.
Shocks: front Koni low pressure gas, rears Tokico blue non-adjustables.
Sway bars: Suspension Techniques 1-1/8" front, adjustable rear 17mm, I believe
Replaced front control arm bushings and tension rod bushings with new, harder than stock rubber ones.
Replaced all original rubber brake lines with new NAPA lines.
New front brake pads, Axxis Metal Masters, Rear shoes semi metallic.
Replaced all fluids with performance fluids or synthetics.
Swapped rear open diff with Limited Slip Differential (stock 3.90 ratio). Only swapped center section (aka “pumpkin") as it was cheaper and easier
New radiator.
13x5.5 Stock Rims with good tires.
13x6 Enkei Gold Mesh rims with BFG R1 tires. Very nice, but I broke one of the center caps. Might be able to find one on eBay.
AC was removed when Weber was installed. Still have all parts and will include with sale.
Electric fan replaced stock fan.
Front wheel bearings, tie rods, and idler arm replaced.
Steering column replaced with one from 90k mile car.
Rear axle bearings replaced.
Jensen AM FM CD Deck and speakers.
Everything else is OEM stock as far as I can recall.
What ya'll think? GSLSE or the GS?
Now: here's the mod list:
Car is an 85 GS, red, no sunroof, 12a rebuilt at 120k. Currently at 160k miles. Rust free. This was a very nice daily driver, and I almost hated to modify it.
Weber 45 DCOE and manifold. The oil metering is disconnected so I premix with the gas.
Carter fuel pump, Holley regulator and gauge, plus misc parts for install.
Racing Beat Header and "Street Port" exhaust.
Eibach springs: Fronts are 260 lbs or so, and rears are 145 lbs or so. These are not coil overs. These are the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. They are slightly harsh on bumpy roads but tolerable.
Shocks: front Koni low pressure gas, rears Tokico blue non-adjustables.
Sway bars: Suspension Techniques 1-1/8" front, adjustable rear 17mm, I believe
Replaced front control arm bushings and tension rod bushings with new, harder than stock rubber ones.
Replaced all original rubber brake lines with new NAPA lines.
New front brake pads, Axxis Metal Masters, Rear shoes semi metallic.
Replaced all fluids with performance fluids or synthetics.
Swapped rear open diff with Limited Slip Differential (stock 3.90 ratio). Only swapped center section (aka “pumpkin") as it was cheaper and easier
New radiator.
13x5.5 Stock Rims with good tires.
13x6 Enkei Gold Mesh rims with BFG R1 tires. Very nice, but I broke one of the center caps. Might be able to find one on eBay.
AC was removed when Weber was installed. Still have all parts and will include with sale.
Electric fan replaced stock fan.
Front wheel bearings, tie rods, and idler arm replaced.
Steering column replaced with one from 90k mile car.
Rear axle bearings replaced.
Jensen AM FM CD Deck and speakers.
Everything else is OEM stock as far as I can recall.
What ya'll think? GSLSE or the GS?
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Originally Posted by team918
im not sure what model it is. Whats ur prefrence on the engine? When should the engine b rebuilt?
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Originally Posted by clbsinvaders
Start looking for a rebuild around 100k. Check compression before you buy, that is a must.
Now: here's the mod list:
Car is an 85 GS, red, no sunroof, 12a rebuilt at 120k. Currently at 160k miles. Rust free. This was a very nice daily driver, and I almost hated to modify it.
Weber 45 DCOE and manifold. The oil metering is disconnected so I premix with the gas.
Carter fuel pump, Holley regulator and gauge, plus misc parts for install.
Racing Beat Header and "Street Port" exhaust.
Eibach springs: Fronts are 260 lbs or so, and rears are 145 lbs or so. These are not coil overs. These are the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. They are slightly harsh on bumpy roads but tolerable.
Shocks: front Koni low pressure gas, rears Tokico blue non-adjustables.
Sway bars: Suspension Techniques 1-1/8" front, adjustable rear 17mm, I believe
Replaced front control arm bushings and tension rod bushings with new, harder than stock rubber ones.
Replaced all original rubber brake lines with new NAPA lines.
New front brake pads, Axxis Metal Masters, Rear shoes semi metallic.
Replaced all fluids with performance fluids or synthetics.
Swapped rear open diff with Limited Slip Differential (stock 3.90 ratio). Only swapped center section (aka “pumpkin") as it was cheaper and easier
New radiator.
13x5.5 Stock Rims with good tires.
13x6 Enkei Gold Mesh rims with BFG R1 tires. Very nice, but I broke one of the center caps. Might be able to find one on eBay.
AC was removed when Weber was installed. Still have all parts and will include with sale.
Electric fan replaced stock fan.
Front wheel bearings, tie rods, and idler arm replaced.
Steering column replaced with one from 90k mile car.
Rear axle bearings replaced.
Jensen AM FM CD Deck and speakers.
Everything else is OEM stock as far as I can recall.
What ya'll think? GSLSE or the GS?
Now: here's the mod list:
Car is an 85 GS, red, no sunroof, 12a rebuilt at 120k. Currently at 160k miles. Rust free. This was a very nice daily driver, and I almost hated to modify it.
Weber 45 DCOE and manifold. The oil metering is disconnected so I premix with the gas.
Carter fuel pump, Holley regulator and gauge, plus misc parts for install.
Racing Beat Header and "Street Port" exhaust.
Eibach springs: Fronts are 260 lbs or so, and rears are 145 lbs or so. These are not coil overs. These are the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. They are slightly harsh on bumpy roads but tolerable.
Shocks: front Koni low pressure gas, rears Tokico blue non-adjustables.
Sway bars: Suspension Techniques 1-1/8" front, adjustable rear 17mm, I believe
Replaced front control arm bushings and tension rod bushings with new, harder than stock rubber ones.
Replaced all original rubber brake lines with new NAPA lines.
New front brake pads, Axxis Metal Masters, Rear shoes semi metallic.
Replaced all fluids with performance fluids or synthetics.
Swapped rear open diff with Limited Slip Differential (stock 3.90 ratio). Only swapped center section (aka “pumpkin") as it was cheaper and easier
New radiator.
13x5.5 Stock Rims with good tires.
13x6 Enkei Gold Mesh rims with BFG R1 tires. Very nice, but I broke one of the center caps. Might be able to find one on eBay.
AC was removed when Weber was installed. Still have all parts and will include with sale.
Electric fan replaced stock fan.
Front wheel bearings, tie rods, and idler arm replaced.
Steering column replaced with one from 90k mile car.
Rear axle bearings replaced.
Jensen AM FM CD Deck and speakers.
Everything else is OEM stock as far as I can recall.
What ya'll think? GSLSE or the GS?
And this is coming from someone who likes the 12A better than the 13B. I still say GSL-SE.
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That's a nice GS no doubt about it. The first RX-7 I had was an SA slightly rusty but I always wanted the GSL-SE... I always loved my SA as I put disk brakes on it etc but the GSL-SE was out there mocking me. Well 11 years later I found one with 0 rust and it was hiding in some remote neighborhood with cob webs all over it and dropping my son off at his friends I caught a glimpse driving by. I stopped, knocked on the door, talked a bit to the owner and said if he ever wanted to get rid of it to let me know, 2 months later they asked me to come get it out of their driveway... apparently teenage driver blew pilot bearing and they were tired of looking at it and was too difficult for them to fix. Wanted $150, gave them $350 cuz I felt guilty and pushed it home pissing all over itself the entire way (blown out power steering pump)... 1 pilot bearing later and some intake / injection seals I had the SE I've wanted for 11 years. Granted I've invested way more than I will even mention here to restore her to the former glory she was. You can get the GS and keep your eye out for the SE as sooner or later you'll find one and when that time comes... maybe you'll need parts like I did
EDIT- or an S, didn't notice the sunroof
EDIT- or an S, didn't notice the sunroof
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Another thing you have to think about is how much do you actually plan on using the suspension upgrades on the other car. An SE handles plenty well enough to be more than sufficient enough to be fun, and suspension upgrades, unless you plan on taking corners hard everywhere you go, are pretty useless and make it that much less friendly to drive on bad roads.
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I've owned a 84 S and 87 Sport...Now have a 85 GSL-SE...When I had the 87, was way too heavy and felt big compared to the 1st gens...But watch out on the 1st gen breaking traction...The rear end tends to get loose and adds to the fun factor...Love my GSL-SE.......
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Originally Posted by Normality_Glitch
Another thing you have to think about is how much do you actually plan on using the suspension upgrades on the other car. An SE handles plenty well enough to be more than sufficient enough to be fun, and suspension upgrades, unless you plan on taking corners hard everywhere you go, are pretty useless and make it that much less friendly to drive on bad roads.
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I may be wrong here but I think the 12a can take a lot more porting options because it is only 4 port and the GSL-SE uses a 6 port with less meat to work with not to mention the car itself is lighter than the GSL-SE... maybe some of the others can supply more information on how true this is. I know my buddy's IT7 racer is a bridgeport 12A and it blows the doors off my GSL-SE.
I really wanted my SE because I intend on dropping a 2nd gen turbo or cosmo engine into it sooner or later and the SE is already FI, has the rear end for it, oil pan etc. I put rear disk + LSD on my SA but I know the SE has a bigger / better rear disk system than any of the other models. The SE's power curve is not as aggressive as the 12a because of the way the 6 ports work to make it more linear across all RPM rather than the 4 port motors are more aggressive at middle - higher RPM? I am by far not a mechanic but maybe some others can give some more insight into all this. This is all information I've read over time in these very forums.
I've owned both and both are different in the way they behave and I can safely say I don't prefer one over the other but the GSL-SE is more of the "cadillac" of the first gen's. If I was to race, I may go with a 13b 4 port carbed N/A.
I really wanted my SE because I intend on dropping a 2nd gen turbo or cosmo engine into it sooner or later and the SE is already FI, has the rear end for it, oil pan etc. I put rear disk + LSD on my SA but I know the SE has a bigger / better rear disk system than any of the other models. The SE's power curve is not as aggressive as the 12a because of the way the 6 ports work to make it more linear across all RPM rather than the 4 port motors are more aggressive at middle - higher RPM? I am by far not a mechanic but maybe some others can give some more insight into all this. This is all information I've read over time in these very forums.
I've owned both and both are different in the way they behave and I can safely say I don't prefer one over the other but the GSL-SE is more of the "cadillac" of the first gen's. If I was to race, I may go with a 13b 4 port carbed N/A.
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The GS was available without a sunroof. My first car was an 85 GS. Bought with 40K on it. Had the GS logo on the back, said GS on the title. No sunroof, No AC. I don't think the S model was available in 84 and 85. I think GS became the base.
edit: Ohhps, slight thread revival.
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