1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

GSL-SE Idle/Cold Start Problem and exhaust leak

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-24-15, 04:27 PM
  #26  
84SE-EGI helpy-helperton

 
LongDuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 3,312
Received 357 Likes on 248 Posts
It's typical for the engine to run rich when started cold, and that's because it's effectively a choke mechanism and also a means of getting your catalytic converters up to operating temperature quickly.

The -SE has secondary throttle plates which are mounted in front of the true secondary butterfly valves which are CLOSED on cold start by the thermowax pellet and associated springs. Until the coolant heats up sufficiently and passes from the thermostate to the throttle body to the thermowax pellet - melting the wax - these secondary throttle plates are closed, inducing a rich mixture. Once hot coolant flows and melts the wax, internal springs allow the secondary throttle plates to open fully, thereby not restricting incoming air to the secondaries.

There's another thread on here about -SE throttle body swapping where we discussed this fully. Good luck, and that rich cold start idle is normal.
Old 03-25-15, 10:08 AM
  #27  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (19)
 
RX-7 Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When I say smoke, I mean enough to make the car vanish in a cloud of gas fumes. Not the normal amount. I might have to take a picture the next time it does it.

One thing to note though is that the car hasn't done it the last two days. The amount of smoke has been normal.

I still need to figure out the idle. it is still idling too high, around 1000rpm.
Old 03-28-15, 07:50 PM
  #28  
I have a rotary addiction

iTrader: (18)
 
NCross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Columbia, Tennessee
Posts: 4,815
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts
You need to check the return line for blockage and check the vent line for the charcoal canister for blockage. If the charcoal canister is clogged the fuel system will over pressurize and run rough at times.
Old 03-29-15, 10:11 AM
  #29  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (19)
 
RX-7 Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know for a fact we found out the charcoal canister is clogged. When we were messing with it a week ago, I pulled the hose off the canister and gas sprayed out of it. I've just left it off since then. Could that have been a big part of my problem?

Has anyone figured out how to rebuild the charcoal canister? I do know that you can put fish tank charcoal in it. How do you get it open though?
Old 03-30-15, 09:07 AM
  #30  
I have a rotary addiction

iTrader: (18)
 
NCross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Columbia, Tennessee
Posts: 4,815
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts
Its a throw away deal.id keep it off. Blow through the vent an return lines with compressed air to clean them out. That will cause a huge problem. I had the vent line capped off once and a small clog in my return and the car went from idling like a bridgeport and overwhelming the floats to a normal idle after cleaning And uncapping.
Old 03-30-15, 10:20 AM
  #31  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (19)
 
RX-7 Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have an extra charcoal canister that is clogged that I may try and get open. I'm just a stickler for the details. I'll leave it off till I figure it out.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
Kyo
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
6
04-13-19 09:24 AM
alphawolff
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
17
11-17-15 05:57 PM



Quick Reply: GSL-SE Idle/Cold Start Problem and exhaust leak



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.