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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Good wet weather tires for 85GSL-SE?

OK OK I searched, but tire models change all the time.

What have people found are good wet weather tires for the SE? The Dunlop SP2s on mine break loose with the least moisture on the pavement. Usually I get Pirellis, which have always been the best for me, but they don't make the right size. so I looked around and found a recommendation for Goodrich Traction TA H tires, but I tried those on another car and they aren't as good as Pirellis.

Sumitomo, bridgestone potenza RE950, have some good reviews.

All I care about is wet weather stickiness and (near) stock size.

Maybe I have to go to 195/65 R14s , which have about the same revs/mile as stock 205/60 R14. Pirelli has a couple models in that size.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Falken Ziex ZE-512 is available is 195/60 and work pretty good in all conditions. Been running them over a year and its nice and predictable.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Some will flame the suggestion of a narrower tire, but trust me on this one. I recently sold a GSL SE and it had Bridgestone Blizzaks on it (no I'm not saying run these in the rain!). Thing is, they were p185/70r14 and they handled awesome and steering was unbelievably easy. Then I put my p250/60r14 BFG Traction t/a's on it, and the steering was tougher, followed all the ruts and didn't handle as well either. I've since gone to some sr rated Daytons (price was right since I usually burn them off with the supercharger anyway), i went with 195/60's up front and 215/60's in the rear. The narrower tire steers sooooo much better, although i am not happy with the handling of the cheap brand tires. If "I" was driving a near stock GSL SE, i would go with Michelin Hydro-Edge tires in P185/70r14 and I believe they would work awesome. http://www.michelinman.ca/michelin/vehicleInfoSubmit.do I have spent 7 years in tire sales long ago, and size isn't everything, the makeup of the tire makes the most difference. It's hard to beat michelin!
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 82transam
Falken Ziex ZE-512 is available is 195/60 and work pretty good in all conditions. Been running them over a year and its nice and predictable.
They are also available in 195/65-14. A freind has these on his SE, and really likes them.

But, like 84stock says, it is hard to beat Michelin, for a daily driver.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Those falkens would work great in 195/65r14. They are H rated, and have a rain friendly tread pattern. Good suggestion.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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wet weather tires

you may want to consider having your tires siped, it has worked for me

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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check with your new tire warranty first
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Most of the good dry tires I've read about are also good wet tires (but lousy snow tires). You also want plenty of tread and a narrow tire in the wet. A wide tire with no tread is best for dry roads, but isn't safe outside of the Indy 500.

So, in short, get a high-performance/sports tires and always change your tires before the tread gets low.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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check out the general exclaim uhp tires on tirerack or discount tire. the general exclaim uhp has a wet and dry traction of 8.7 so theyre pretty damn good.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Some will flame the suggestion of a narrower tire, but trust me on this one. I recently sold a GSL SE and it had Bridgestone Blizzaks on it (no I'm not saying run these in the rain!). Thing is, they were p185/70r14 and they handled awesome and steering was unbelievably easy. Then I put my p250/60r14 BFG Traction t/a's on it, and the steering was tougher, followed all the ruts and didn't handle as well either. I've since gone to some sr rated Daytons (price was right since I usually burn them off with the supercharger anyway), i went with 195/60's up front and 215/60's in the rear. The narrower tire steers sooooo much better, although i am not happy with the handling of the cheap brand tires. If "I" was driving a near stock GSL SE, i would go with Michelin Hydro-Edge tires in P185/70r14 and I believe they would work awesome. http://www.michelinman.ca/michelin/vehicleInfoSubmit.do I have spent 7 years in tire sales long ago, and size isn't everything, the makeup of the tire makes the most difference. It's hard to beat michelin!
what about the michellin pilot sport and pilot sport a/s ? do you know how well those work?
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Those falkens would work great in 195/65r14. They are H rated, and have a rain friendly tread pattern. Good suggestion.
I almost went with these for my car. (15" wheels, 205/50-15) I opted for Kumho Ecsta SPT instead. V speed rated, and a AA wet traction rating. No 14" sizes at all. I was replacing a set of Falken ZE 502's that were 4+ years old, 45-50% tread remained after 30K miles.

Discount tire direct is a good source for the Falkens. Fair pricing, shipping is free and fast. I called to order the Falken 512's, but they had one full set of the Kumho's, and sold them to me at the same price as the Falkens (about $7 per tire savings). I recieved excellent service when I called. No complaints from me.
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wet weather tires

if you have a few minutes to burn, here's a tire siping info vid

http://www.tsissg.com/videos/Holland_Edits-DVD.wmv
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I bought Yokohama AVS ES100 when I was living in FL (lots of rain) and I love the way my car handled.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Some will flame the suggestion of a narrower tire, but trust me on this one. I recently sold a GSL SE and it had Bridgestone Blizzaks on it (no I'm not saying run these in the rain!). Thing is, they were p185/70r14 and they handled awesome and steering was unbelievably easy. Then I put my p250/60r14 BFG Traction t/a's on it, and the steering was tougher, followed all the ruts and didn't handle as well either. I've since gone to some sr rated Daytons (price was right since I usually burn them off with the supercharger anyway), i went with 195/60's up front and 215/60's in the rear. The narrower tire steers sooooo much better, although i am not happy with the handling of the cheap brand tires. If "I" was driving a near stock GSL SE, i would go with Michelin Hydro-Edge tires in P185/70r14 and I believe they would work awesome. http://www.michelinman.ca/michelin/vehicleInfoSubmit.do I have spent 7 years in tire sales long ago, and size isn't everything, the makeup of the tire makes the most difference. It's hard to beat michelin!
using the blizzack as a reference will throw you way off. blizzacks use an extremely soft compound, as soft as a drag radial. so they are bound to stick to the ground pretty damn good regardless what condition the road is in, and on dry pavement youll be lucky to get 10K on'em before they're bald. but it is true that wider tires will have a tendancy to grab little ruts in the road causing random pulling side to side.

my prefered wet/dry perfomance tire is the potenza S-03 pole positions, but i dont think they came in anything below 15's, plus they're discontinued
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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thanks for the suggestions, guys. I think that a narrower tire makes sense for a DD and especially for wet paving. Think I'll move down to 195/65 R14 or 195/70 even.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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195/65 or "185/70", the 195/70 will be too tall
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by branca
if you have a few minutes to burn, here's a tire siping info vid

http://www.tsissg.com/videos/Holland_Edits-DVD.wmv

Siping tires is good for snow or ice conditions. Bliffle lives in SF, CA.

I don't know why they did away with the old Dunlop D60 A2 series. Even in extreme down pours going thru the Gorman area when I was still in Ca they would not lose grip.

The old Michelin XGT series was the same way.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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don't use falkens I had them on a SE that wasn't even making the horsepower it should stock and I had to start in 2nd at even the first hint of rain... go with the yokohamas they are always good ****...
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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does anyone know of good wet weather tires that i can throw on my stock 13" rims on my gsl?
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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does anyone know of good wet weather tires that i can throw on my stock 13" rims on my gsl?
????????? That's what I thought this thread was about? Didn't you already do research on the Generals? It does not matter the size but the type of tire that you run.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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lol yea but none of them come in 13". i know hella good tires for 14 and 15" rims
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