Fuel pump volume good, but what about pressure?
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Fuel pump volume good, but what about pressure?
In diagnosing my sputtering problem I checked the fuel pump, my bowls are always full and I have good volume coming from my pump. What I don't know is the pressure. I do not have a pressure gauge but I was wondering, as long as the bowls are filled pressure shouldn't be important, right?
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In diagnosing my sputtering problem I checked the fuel pump, my bowls are always full and I have good volume coming from my pump. What I don't know is the pressure. I do not have a pressure gauge but I was wondering, as long as the bowls are filled pressure shouldn't be important, right?
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Pressure is always important whether it be too low or too high. I found a cheap plastic pressure gauge at AutoZone that simply splices into the fuel line. It appears to be accurate as I compared it to the better fpgs that I normally use. It runs 10-12 bucks, iirc
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The nikki's have sight glasses on the bowls and whenever I check they are right where they should be. Even when its sputtering I can look and see that they are full.
I'll look at getting a pressure gauge. So you're saying my pump still could be bad and not have enough pressure even though its filling the bowls-and that could still be my problem?
I'll look at getting a pressure gauge. So you're saying my pump still could be bad and not have enough pressure even though its filling the bowls-and that could still be my problem?
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The nikki's have sight glasses on the bowls and whenever I check they are right where they should be. Even when its sputtering I can look and see that they are full.
I'll look at getting a pressure gauge. So you're saying my pump still could be bad and not have enough pressure even though its filling the bowls-and that could still be my problem?
I'll look at getting a pressure gauge. So you're saying my pump still could be bad and not have enough pressure even though its filling the bowls-and that could still be my problem?
You can have, what appears to be, proper volume, especially at idle. If there is a block somewhere in the system (pick-up tube in tank, fuel sock/screen) you can still have fuel volume that will pass the test at idle. What's important to know is if you have the proper fuel delivery under load. You can only know this by doing a pressure test. Search in the archives for "fuel tank clogged" or something like that. Kent, (GSL-SE Addict) helped someone figure out a fuel problem. The car was running like crap but passed the fuel volume test at idle. At fuel throttle however, the engine was not getting the gas it needed due to some crud in the fuel line coming off the tank.
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It was the other way around. Passed pressure, but failed volume. The lines were clogged and only allowed enough fuel to get through for idle and would crap out anything above. This was a GSL-SE.
You really need to test pressure and volume. Both are easy to do and the FSM tells you how. Otherwise, you are just guessing. If pressure and volume are good, you know that the pump, filter, lines, etc. are good. Then you will know to look at the carb and related things. You just have to have an idea of what it could be and then test to eliminate things until you find the cause.
You really need to test pressure and volume. Both are easy to do and the FSM tells you how. Otherwise, you are just guessing. If pressure and volume are good, you know that the pump, filter, lines, etc. are good. Then you will know to look at the carb and related things. You just have to have an idea of what it could be and then test to eliminate things until you find the cause.
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Yeah, I've been doing more eliminating, and so far I've
Swapped Igniters
New Wires
New Plugs
Swapped Coils
Rebuilt carb
checked vacuum
passed volume test
replaced fuel filter
And the car sputters when the car is under a good load, even now when I have the four barrels disconnected and just running the primaries it sputters at full primaries.
Swapped Igniters
New Wires
New Plugs
Swapped Coils
Rebuilt carb
checked vacuum
passed volume test
replaced fuel filter
And the car sputters when the car is under a good load, even now when I have the four barrels disconnected and just running the primaries it sputters at full primaries.
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on the right side, there is a cable connection that is very easy to over look. This is the best picture that I could find. you are looking straight down at a spring loaded screw threaded rod. If this is not connected, there will be fuel starvation under load.
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the mazda mechanic told me that it supplied extra fuel at open throttle.
When looking for the picture on this site, someone claimed to have solved the sputterring under load problem by removing the green fuel check valve in the engine bay. I advanced searched "carburator" specifically in the generation 1 on this site.
When looking for the picture on this site, someone claimed to have solved the sputterring under load problem by removing the green fuel check valve in the engine bay. I advanced searched "carburator" specifically in the generation 1 on this site.
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the mazda mechanic told me that it supplied extra fuel at open throttle.
When looking for the picture on this site, someone claimed to have solved the sputterring under load problem by removing the green fuel check valve in the engine bay. I advanced searched "carburator" specifically in the generation 1 on this site.
When looking for the picture on this site, someone claimed to have solved the sputterring under load problem by removing the green fuel check valve in the engine bay. I advanced searched "carburator" specifically in the generation 1 on this site.
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check the spark plugs
Red insulators point of lack of fuel. Black point to excess fuel or non sparking (ignition troubles).
Tan plugs are happy plugs.
I assume you are using NKG's and not autolites.
Red insulators point of lack of fuel. Black point to excess fuel or non sparking (ignition troubles).
Tan plugs are happy plugs.
I assume you are using NKG's and not autolites.
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I put in new plugs a few weeks ago. They became pretty black fairly quickly, actually.
That makes me think that there is a spark problem, that the spark can't keep up with the fuel underload, but I've covered everything in the ignition system. Coils checked out, igniters were good, replaced wires and plugs, hooked everything up right and made sure that timing was advancing. The only problems I got is that the car still runs good with the vacuum advancedments disconnected, and when using the timing light I couldn't get any light off the number 2 rotor.
That makes me think that there is a spark problem, that the spark can't keep up with the fuel underload, but I've covered everything in the ignition system. Coils checked out, igniters were good, replaced wires and plugs, hooked everything up right and made sure that timing was advancing. The only problems I got is that the car still runs good with the vacuum advancedments disconnected, and when using the timing light I couldn't get any light off the number 2 rotor.
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rotor and distributor cap, that is all that is left to replace
BTW, on CD ignition, is there anything like a condensor that I should replace when doing tune ups? Is there anything to tune up on the distributor?
BTW, on CD ignition, is there anything like a condensor that I should replace when doing tune ups? Is there anything to tune up on the distributor?
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I put in new plugs a few weeks ago. They became pretty black fairly quickly, actually.
That makes me think that there is a spark problem, that the spark can't keep up with the fuel underload, but I've covered everything in the ignition system. Coils checked out, igniters were good, replaced wires and plugs, hooked everything up right and made sure that timing was advancing. The only problems I got is that the car still runs good with the vacuum advancedments disconnected, and when using the timing light I couldn't get any light off the number 2 rotor.
That makes me think that there is a spark problem, that the spark can't keep up with the fuel underload, but I've covered everything in the ignition system. Coils checked out, igniters were good, replaced wires and plugs, hooked everything up right and made sure that timing was advancing. The only problems I got is that the car still runs good with the vacuum advancedments disconnected, and when using the timing light I couldn't get any light off the number 2 rotor.
Like the other member said, did you replace the cap and rotor? I don't know exactly how your car is responding, but if there are any cracks in the cap or flaws in the rotor, it can cause the problems that you are describing.
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No, the one thing I haven't replaced is the Cap and the rotor, and mine are pretty bad. I just figured they weren't an important enough of an item to make a difference. There are no cracks but the electrodes are pretty corroded and worn down. I'll try that next.
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