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12-30-02, 05:27 AM
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I like the idea to make some stickies "required viewing" before a newbie can post. Some people are so new to the internet (and to threaded discussions) that they could use a few guidelines. That wouldn't prevent them from saying hello. If the "required viewing" thing won't fly with the powers-that-be, then giving some stickies more prominence may be the solution.
12-30-02, 09:34 AM
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Once again I wish to appologize to everyone for my explosive, explicative filled part in a recent long drawn out thread.
People **** me off- what can I say?
I'm helpful whenever I can be, but I really enjoy conversing about the first gen and proposed projects. I don't go to the lounge because I don't need to hear/read about some moron who's upset because his girl won't do certain sexual favors for him and his buddys.
But what REALLY gets me is when someone here asks about something specific like supercharging, and others decide they're gonna shed the "Turbo Ray of Light" on him so that he may be "enlightened" as to the wide range of choices that they apparently believe he was never made privy to. (Musta been raised in a closet, right?)
All opinions are welcome- It's a forum. But when someone just basically says "Your choice sucks." and leaves, it's unacceptable behavoir- About as unaccebtable as my recent behavoir.
...and he's being a lil post-*****.
I could deal. Really. But my "little-bit-o-frustration" turns to anger at the fact that more often than not, the people that instigate like that are persons with a "more than basic knowledge" of the rotary and Rx-7, and those people are NOWHERE TO BE FOUND on threads where people need some simple help.
I think that these people are inflated by their post numbers.
I think we would quickly begin to weed out the jerks by simply getting rid of the "Number of Posts".
Just because you have 1000 posts in the last 4 weeks does'nt mean you're 5 times more helpful around here than a guy that only has 200.
You'll see if I'm right, Ken, when you ask to see who's all for irradicating the post numbers.
And for Gawd's sake, everybody put a stop to these guys that come on peoples threads and talk about "Red" when the originator specifically asked about "Blue"!
Otherwise, everything is really great. These are behavoirs that members need to keep each other in check about.
BTW, Ken, your recent extra efforts make a difference. Thanks.
People **** me off- what can I say?
I'm helpful whenever I can be, but I really enjoy conversing about the first gen and proposed projects. I don't go to the lounge because I don't need to hear/read about some moron who's upset because his girl won't do certain sexual favors for him and his buddys.
But what REALLY gets me is when someone here asks about something specific like supercharging, and others decide they're gonna shed the "Turbo Ray of Light" on him so that he may be "enlightened" as to the wide range of choices that they apparently believe he was never made privy to. (Musta been raised in a closet, right?)
All opinions are welcome- It's a forum. But when someone just basically says "Your choice sucks." and leaves, it's unacceptable behavoir- About as unaccebtable as my recent behavoir.
...and he's being a lil post-*****.
I could deal. Really. But my "little-bit-o-frustration" turns to anger at the fact that more often than not, the people that instigate like that are persons with a "more than basic knowledge" of the rotary and Rx-7, and those people are NOWHERE TO BE FOUND on threads where people need some simple help.
I think that these people are inflated by their post numbers.
I think we would quickly begin to weed out the jerks by simply getting rid of the "Number of Posts".
Just because you have 1000 posts in the last 4 weeks does'nt mean you're 5 times more helpful around here than a guy that only has 200.
You'll see if I'm right, Ken, when you ask to see who's all for irradicating the post numbers.
And for Gawd's sake, everybody put a stop to these guys that come on peoples threads and talk about "Red" when the originator specifically asked about "Blue"!
Otherwise, everything is really great. These are behavoirs that members need to keep each other in check about.
BTW, Ken, your recent extra efforts make a difference. Thanks.
12-30-02, 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Sterling
I think that these people are inflated by their post numbers.
I think we would quickly begin to weed out the jerks by simply getting rid of the "Number of Posts".
I think that these people are inflated by their post numbers.
I think we would quickly begin to weed out the jerks by simply getting rid of the "Number of Posts".
Originally posted by Sterling
Just because you have 1000 posts in the last 4 weeks does'nt mean you're 5 times more helpful around here than a guy that only has 200.
Just because you have 1000 posts in the last 4 weeks does'nt mean you're 5 times more helpful around here than a guy that only has 200.
12-30-02, 10:41 AM
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I just reading through here, and wanted to let people know that I'm one the mods for the suggestions area, and if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to add you thoughts. 
Suggestions - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=21
As for the For Sale section...
There is an entire classified section from the main page. I'm not sure how people can miss it. *Scratches head* I'm also the mod for the sales sections. Each section has 1st gen., 2nd gen., and 3rd gen. separated.
RX-7's For Sale / Wanted - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=12
Parts For Sale / Wanted - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=13
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Suggestions - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=21
As for the For Sale section...
There is an entire classified section from the main page. I'm not sure how people can miss it. *Scratches head* I'm also the mod for the sales sections. Each section has 1st gen., 2nd gen., and 3rd gen. separated.
RX-7's For Sale / Wanted - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=12
Parts For Sale / Wanted - https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=13
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12-30-02, 11:25 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, this is the only forum. It rules.
Suggestions? Count me in for getting rid of Post Counts. It's meaningless. There's "newbies" here who've been into RX-7s for decades, and there's certain people who have over 1000 posts but have never actually owned, driven, or worked on an RX-7.
As far as how good of a job the moderators are doing, here in Original Recipe RX-7 Land, we rarely have trouble requiring a moderator. As people who live to enjoy our weird little sports cars we've developed a very positive and helpful sub-culture. We're into it for the fun, not the competitiveness and superiority complexes that lead to Flame Wars - although as Sterling pointed out, sometimes people do get carried away with a heated debate.
I think of this place, 1st Generation Specific, as my online community. And like in my real-world community, I don't run around with a flame thrower, I help my neighbors and friends out as best I can - because I know that they're always helping me out. It's as simple as that.
Peace, and rotor on!
Suggestions? Count me in for getting rid of Post Counts. It's meaningless. There's "newbies" here who've been into RX-7s for decades, and there's certain people who have over 1000 posts but have never actually owned, driven, or worked on an RX-7.
As far as how good of a job the moderators are doing, here in Original Recipe RX-7 Land, we rarely have trouble requiring a moderator. As people who live to enjoy our weird little sports cars we've developed a very positive and helpful sub-culture. We're into it for the fun, not the competitiveness and superiority complexes that lead to Flame Wars - although as Sterling pointed out, sometimes people do get carried away with a heated debate.
I think of this place, 1st Generation Specific, as my online community. And like in my real-world community, I don't run around with a flame thrower, I help my neighbors and friends out as best I can - because I know that they're always helping me out. It's as simple as that.
Peace, and rotor on!
12-30-02, 01:34 PM
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To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
12-30-02, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Stacey GSL-SE
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
No, you are not alone, alot of people are like you.. That is why it is not common practice to delete accounts without posts.. Although there probably be some clean up.. I believe this month their are around 14K active users. which only leaves about 10K accounts.. the problem would be weeding those out without removing members that don't visit this place daily/weekly.
Some people might not post for months, do we remove them too?
I would say if there is a username you want, and it is taken but not used, pm a mod asking them to remove that user and change your username.
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12-30-02, 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by Stacey GSL-SE
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
way to go on the researchin before posting. HIGH FIVE!
hehe
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12-30-02, 02:02 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, this is the best-moderated forum on the net. Why? Cause people are allowed to speak their mind, and the moderators of the forum let it "moderate" itself as it were. Sure, it sometimes gets a little out of hand, but i think everyone on the forum understands that a certain level of appropriateness must be upheld. Keep up the good work!
12-30-02, 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Stacey GSL-SE
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
To address the suggestion of deleting members who haven't posted...
Please don't do this. I realize there are people who register to post only once. Ryan's stolen Rx-7 is a perfect example.
Although I do not post often, I am frequently searching through all the old posts as well as the new ones. I am desperately trying to learn about the mechanics of my car. The knowledge that exists on this forum cannot be found anywhere else. You guys are great!
Please don't remove me simply because I don't post often. Perhaps, there are other members like me?
Stacey
12-30-02, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
How bout there be other protocols involved in that. Lets say you have a zero post count, and havent come to this site in 6 months. I say delete them... Its misleading to say you have 25k member and only 4k of them continue to commit to this forum...
How bout there be other protocols involved in that. Lets say you have a zero post count, and havent come to this site in 6 months. I say delete them... Its misleading to say you have 25k member and only 4k of them continue to commit to this forum...
12-30-02, 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
Wanna race for a $100? Didnt think so
Wanna race for a $100? Didnt think so
That's some confidence!
Originally posted by nimrodTT
How about required reading before being able to post? Make the noobs do, say, 10 searches and view 100 threads before being allowed to post on the board. And you could make some of the stickies required viewing before being able to post in a certain section.
How about required reading before being able to post? Make the noobs do, say, 10 searches and view 100 threads before being allowed to post on the board. And you could make some of the stickies required viewing before being able to post in a certain section.
Or maybe an oath of loyalty?
Wait, no, a sample of their DNA!!!
12-30-02, 06:25 PM
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Great. Thank you for the suggestions thus far. I'd like to take a moment here to respond to them.
Some of the suggestions would be things that the admins would have to implement, so I'll tackle those first.
Deletion of non-users/posters
I can understand where that is coming from, but I think that might be a bit of a logistical nightmare (unless the software has something built in to accomplish this pruning). Of course, I also understand the counter-point about deleting those that are current members who just happen not to post much. To be honest, we probably wouldn't move on that one just for the logistical reasons (weeding through non-posters from non-users etc).
Requiring new members to read the stickies and whatnot
Again, I'm not certain if this is something the forum software can support or not. I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, I can understand where it is coming from, and it would be helpful for new members (particularly those that are new to computers/online forums) to skim through it so that we all have a base level of understanding/knowledge to start from. However, I can also see how many people may not need this (and as someone mentioned above, there are many new members here that have worked on/with 1gen RX-7's for a good deal of time and know quite a lot about them) and it may be a turn-off for some of them. In the end, I guess I feel we should error on the side of the new member, as this forum is more about helping those in need rather than maintaining a status quo for those of us that have been here for some time.
One thing I would like to do though is to cut down on the number of stickies at the top of this forum (consolidate them basically). I think that may be turning some people off from reading them -- sometimes when we put something at the top and keep it there, it suddenly just becomes part of the background and nobody reads it -- quite ironic I think lol. Perhaps doing this would solve (or at least ease) both of these problems.
Nix the post count man!
This I couldn't agree with more. In fact, when the forum was new (a few years back), I believe I suggested that very thing. I can't remember why it was decided to not cut it then, but I will definitely pass this on. I agree that it's completely meaningless, serves only to create problems and often just gets in the way.
What it is with the featured car?
Again, I couldn't agree more. We've voted for a new featured car several times and for some reason it doesn't get changed. I think there actually may be some bug with it (there's a few creeping up around here lately) and Jason was going to fix it when we switch to (I think) a new server. Anyway, I staunchly vote 1gen, and will continue to do so
Title of threads
I agree, often thread titles tend to wander and make you wonder what that question actually is. This will take dedication from both the members and myself and Blair. If I see a thread where the title is really vague, I'll try to re-name it something more clearer. I also agree about cutting the cursing out of the title anyway. I mean, I completely understand when we work on our cars, we always end up cursing the living daylights of it ... and it isn't really that big a deal inside the thread (as long as it doesn't get out of control) but I think it does make us look more professional if we at least abstain from cursing in our thread titles. I'll start changing those titles again myself (I usually just cut the curse word down to $^#%$%$) or something like that -- no biggie.
Posts staying on topic/not ripping into other people for wanting to do xxx to their car
This is another good one -- and there is a fine line to be drawn. Generally speaking, this is definitely down more to all us members (as I can really only step in as a moderator after something goes awry). Generally, pointing out alternatives/debating is great in a thread along the lines of "thinking of doing xxx to my car, pros/cons?" but not so great in a thread along the lines of "I've got all the parts and the install is half done, how do I accomplish xxx task to complete this" ... it's kinda too late in the ballgame for debate at that point. For the most part, I think we do pretty well here -- but there are definitely those times (as I'm sure Sterling can attest to hehe). At any rate, we should probably all just bare in mind that, just because we may go a different route, it doesn't mean the other guy is wrong. In short, if ya don't have anything good to say (or at least neutral to say) it's best to say nothing a’ tall.
And finally … thank you for the kind words about the forum. We appreciate it!
Some of the suggestions would be things that the admins would have to implement, so I'll tackle those first.
Deletion of non-users/posters
I can understand where that is coming from, but I think that might be a bit of a logistical nightmare (unless the software has something built in to accomplish this pruning). Of course, I also understand the counter-point about deleting those that are current members who just happen not to post much. To be honest, we probably wouldn't move on that one just for the logistical reasons (weeding through non-posters from non-users etc).
Requiring new members to read the stickies and whatnot
Again, I'm not certain if this is something the forum software can support or not. I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, I can understand where it is coming from, and it would be helpful for new members (particularly those that are new to computers/online forums) to skim through it so that we all have a base level of understanding/knowledge to start from. However, I can also see how many people may not need this (and as someone mentioned above, there are many new members here that have worked on/with 1gen RX-7's for a good deal of time and know quite a lot about them) and it may be a turn-off for some of them. In the end, I guess I feel we should error on the side of the new member, as this forum is more about helping those in need rather than maintaining a status quo for those of us that have been here for some time.
One thing I would like to do though is to cut down on the number of stickies at the top of this forum (consolidate them basically). I think that may be turning some people off from reading them -- sometimes when we put something at the top and keep it there, it suddenly just becomes part of the background and nobody reads it -- quite ironic I think lol. Perhaps doing this would solve (or at least ease) both of these problems.
Nix the post count man!
This I couldn't agree with more. In fact, when the forum was new (a few years back), I believe I suggested that very thing. I can't remember why it was decided to not cut it then, but I will definitely pass this on. I agree that it's completely meaningless, serves only to create problems and often just gets in the way.
What it is with the featured car?
Again, I couldn't agree more. We've voted for a new featured car several times and for some reason it doesn't get changed. I think there actually may be some bug with it (there's a few creeping up around here lately) and Jason was going to fix it when we switch to (I think) a new server. Anyway, I staunchly vote 1gen, and will continue to do so
Title of threads
I agree, often thread titles tend to wander and make you wonder what that question actually is. This will take dedication from both the members and myself and Blair. If I see a thread where the title is really vague, I'll try to re-name it something more clearer
. I also agree about cutting the cursing out of the title anyway. I mean, I completely understand when we work on our cars, we always end up cursing the living daylights of it ... and it isn't really that big a deal inside the thread (as long as it doesn't get out of control) but I think it does make us look more professional if we at least abstain from cursing in our thread titles. I'll start changing those titles again myself (I usually just cut the curse word down to $^#%$%$) or something like that -- no biggie.Posts staying on topic/not ripping into other people for wanting to do xxx to their car
This is another good one -- and there is a fine line to be drawn. Generally speaking, this is definitely down more to all us members (as I can really only step in as a moderator after something goes awry). Generally, pointing out alternatives/debating is great in a thread along the lines of "thinking of doing xxx to my car, pros/cons?" but not so great in a thread along the lines of "I've got all the parts and the install is half done, how do I accomplish xxx task to complete this" ... it's kinda too late in the ballgame for debate at that point. For the most part, I think we do pretty well here -- but there are definitely those times (as I'm sure Sterling can attest to hehe). At any rate, we should probably all just bare in mind that, just because we may go a different route, it doesn't mean the other guy is wrong. In short, if ya don't have anything good to say (or at least neutral to say) it's best to say nothing a’ tall
.And finally … thank you for the kind words about the forum. We appreciate it!
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