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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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FB JDM Back Seat option...

Ok, I did a search in this board and the archive and the best thing I found was some Brit's pics of his rear seats from 2007. My question is for the folk who have this option in their car and specifically for the people who installed it after the fact. IOW, they installed it into a US-bound car that was not ever supposed to see the option.

I bought this thing about two years ago and have just now got around to unwrapping it. Can anyone tell me if this is, indeed, the correct 1stgen rear seat or did the guy sell me a 2ndgen unit?







I know, I know...I should have opened it way back when but I didn't. It's in pretty good shape, so if it's the wrong piece, I can always sell it. If the UK guy is reading this, you had a Tweety yellow FB....but the bracing under the seat was red and look custom tailored to fit the seat in. Was that factory or done by a fabrication shop in the UK? Here's your pic.



Thanks in advance for all who can help in this matter.



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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Yep, looks just like mine.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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my friend has a back seat in his and it looks like the same thing as that soo im guessing thats the right unit not really sure how it mounts though
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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Looking at your seat and his, it looks as though the red bracing is integrated into yours, at least judging by the shape.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Well, then! Looks like I'll be tearing into Furious to see how this thing goes in there! Thanks for the input!

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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Hmmm...it looks different to all the Aussie spec ones.

On ours the rear section bolts in, is secured in the upright position with locking latches, and when released, pivots so that it folds down onto the top of the bottom section.

On ours the bottom section has 2 "U" shaped lugs at the front that slip into a slot on the chassis rail at the front of the bottom section (like in the UK pic) and can be secured using a 10mm bolt (not always necessary)

Yours doesn't seem to have the bolt in section for the rear/top part. And the bottom securing section seems to a "rod" at the front not the "U" shaped section.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what a FC rear seat looks like...so I can't really tell you if you got a FC version by mistake.

Sorry.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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I don't know what that rear seat is from, but I can tell you 100% it isn't a factory 1st gen one.

The seat in the yellow car that was red, is definitely a genuine 1st gen seat.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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I agree, its not a first gen seat. The seat you have resembles the pic he sent you, but both seats are different in a few ways; color, shape and the fact that there is what looks like a hook in the center of the seat that sits above the tranny tunnel (not on a first gen seat).
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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There are quite a few variation for the first gen rears seats but the model you have IS for a first gen and it will fit in your car just fine. I have the same one installed on my car and I will post some pictures when I find my camera.

My question for you is, did the seller include any of the hardware like the bolts and washers?

The only thing special about the bracing in the yellow car is that its painted red. But the rear seats in that car are different from yours.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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That is definitely not a 2nd seat. My best guess is that it's an after market 1st gen seat.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Just out of curiosity -- do you plan to put people back there (very small ones), or is it more of a conversation piece?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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That doesn't look like my back seats either-mines a 1983 S2. I think the yellow one you're talking about (owned by a chap called Mark) is an S3 I don't know if that is of any significance. What series are you wanting to put them in?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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does it have a part number of any kind on it?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Actually, that piece is going to get butchered...I plan on doing only ONE rear seat to leave a spot for a hidden install of the amplifiers and capacitors for the re-install of the stereo system. I'm not having anymore kids, so I just need three spots in the RX-7 to take the kids to school two times a week. Considering the fabrication that may be involved, I'm thinking about the comments I read in the older thread where I got that pic from where someone described being able to legally install a child's car seat into the bin.

Still, a three seater RX-7 would certainly be a conversation piece at the next rotary meet.

This is for the 1983 GS I have and I'll look for a PN of some sort when it warms up...got snow and 35 degrees F here in Arlington today. Puxatawney Phil wasn't lying.



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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Arrow The rear seat story continues....

Originally Posted by Rx Seven
My question for you is, did the seller include any of the hardware like the bolts and washers?
That is my question now. There was hardware included but it's a bit of a mystery how it all works together. It's looking like I'm going to have to fabricate some kind of thick bracket to take advantage of a threaded hole in the wheelwell and add a big bolt hole into the floor board to anchor the rear of the seat firmly and give me a solid place for the seat belt bracket. Here's what it looks like stripped down. I'll take a pic of the seat in position tomorrow and the hardware that was sent to me. My big question is how are the center seatbelts anchored?






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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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and now you know that this is not the factory seat. The big bolt hole on the side you are refering to is the stock seatbelt mounting location. Hopefully your child no longer requires a car seat because it is impossible to get one into that particular rear seat. the true JDM ones are a little bit deeper and will just barely allow a car seat to fit. althoug the person in the front seat loses almost all leg room. If you start making holes in your floor board remember to check what is underneath first and make sure that you use some kind of undercoating to protect the area from rust after words.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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That seat is a Pacific Avatar aftermarket seat for an FB. I had the same one several years ago that i sold to a fellow forum member. I Installed it into my FB for ~ a year and had to make some mods for it to bolt in securely. I drilled and used fender washers to secure the seat belt bolt through the body. If you need further advice feel free to PM me.


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eta. does that seat have a cracked spot on the center of the top?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Does anyone still make a rear SA/FB rear seat?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flight_of_pain
eta. does that seat have a cracked spot on the center of the top?
Nope, it's a formed land for something but it hasn't been used. I've decided to go the impossibly complicated route of re-installing just the driver's side rear bin sheetmetal and rear bin. Once the physical parameters have been determined by that, I'll cut back the vinyl to expose the frame of the rear seat and cut it in half and reweld the bracketry to the mid position or wherever the bin upholstery "says" the seat middle part should end. House of Hot Rods will be handling that part.

Add a nice little middle console and it should be set. I'll take pics as the fabrication unfolds.

At least it fits back there...side panel fabrication is also going to be necessary.


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