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Old 06-10-03, 11:53 AM
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Escort electric fan

I found this pic of an 91-96 escort electric fan. Is this the unit everyone is talking about for 1st gens?

http://www.carpartswholesale.com/cgi...e/F160904.html

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well, for that price, i would think you could get a good aftermarket one
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Doesn't matter what its out of really, alls you need to do is make sure its very very low profile, and it will fit.

Mine came out of a tempo i think, my buddie's out of a probe, it all just depends on how far out the motor sticks. you want it as small as possible.

Just from the photo, that looks good. but don't spend too muchon it, mine cost me $14, and after wiring and a little paint later, here is the result:

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damn ioTus, looks good. what year of tempo did you say that was? inquiring minds want to know
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I'm only trying to figure out what the escort fan looks like. I've been calling around the junkjards, and so far $65 is the best price I can find.
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It was out of something like a '91 or something like that.

Just go to the junk yard, and look through every new ford with an electric fan until you find one with a relatively flush motor.

I cut about a cm of the shroud on mine, to make it sit closer to the radiator. I actually made it sit TOO close, and it dug a hole because it had a metal clip. We replaced the metal clip with a small wire, and it works perfectly now.

Be sure to carry some stop leak with you! It really works!!

BTW, FD, i would NEVER buy that fan, you can buy one made for our cars for that much, if you need help wiring up a junker, let me know i can guide you through how i did mine.

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Originally posted by ioTus
if you need help wiring up a junker, let me know i can guide you through how i did mine.
hmmm.... i might have to take you up on that too, next week. well, thanks for the info.
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So do you guys have it set up so it kicks on at a given temp, or is it on all the time?
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I have mine set on the same circuit as the cigarette lighter, so as soon as the key goes to the "on" position the fan turns on.

This seems to keep the car plenty cool. I'm eventually going to wire in a switch so that i can do both the normal speed (what its wired to now) and the high speed (the third wire which makes it go at turbo speed).

This way when the engine starts getting too warm, i can just switch it over and ride on.
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So, I'm your "buddy" now??? Hehe.. ok

The probe fan I got was a little bit more powerful than the Tempo one, but the Probe had a V6 in it... I think that's the key. all the cars with the 4 cylinders had fans that stuck out quite a bit. the V6's had low profile ones. I'd definitely recommend the Probe fan, but the Tempo one works well too.

BTW: You may hear that the Fiero fans work too... they will mount up, but they don't have nearly the CFM as the Ford fans do.

Just to tell you how much sucking power these things have... I set it up against the radiator to see if it would fit, and wired it up... it sucked all the dust out of where the fan was and left a nice clean dark black circle!!! Quite amazing.

One thing I think Iotus forgot to mention- spray paint it black with Krylon... holds up to heat fairly well. That's why his looks so pretty. If you want to check mine out, go to www.metallic_rock.freeservers.com
Note: He didn't try the spray paint until after I installed mine.
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also, I dont' know if you have to deal with emissions or not, but after I removed mine, I used the wiring for the emissions stuff for my fan. You can also wire it into your fuse box. I'd definitely recommend doing that.

You can also wire it up with a switch so that it will come on when you turn it on. (should allow you to warm your car up faster)

The wiring on the Probe fan has 2 speed settings. "FAST" and "YOUR CAR IS NOW JET POWERED"

It almost blew out of Iotus's hands at the junkyard when we tried it out on high.
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Can you guys (IoTus and Metallic Rock) measure the depth of those fans?

I like the Two-Speed Idea.

EDIT:

Oh, and some better detailed pics too.
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sure, do you want to know the depth NOW or BEFORE cutting the shroud?
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As far as fan control, I was thinking of making something like the following:

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=DER%2D16759

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=PRF%2D30103

maybe even a two stage system, the first one would trigger the first fan speed, and the second one would trigger (at a higher temp) a jump to third speed.

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This fan. 3.8L Ford Taurus.


Fit's 83-85 rads perfectly. A multiple speed set up would be advisable as it dims the lights and may suck small animals into your grill. But, if your car is running hot, flick it on and you can watch the temp needle drop to almost dead cold in seconds.
If you can't locate one, I think I have one laying around.
BTW, many earliy 90's Fords had overheating issues so they are a great source of fans. Just as Chrysler products had a problem blowing tranny's and are a great source of huge trans coolers.
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But how Deep is it?

I had a headache trying to make my two 12" fans fit because of the A/C and Power Steering Pullies.
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mine leaves about 3-4" between the fan and the old fan pulley attachment... i'll go out and propprly measure later.

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Originally posted by 1st to 3rd
This fan. 3.8L Ford Taurus.


Fit's 83-85 rads perfectly. A multiple speed set up would be advisable as it dims the lights and may suck small animals into your grill. But, if your car is running hot, flick it on and you can watch the temp needle drop to almost dead cold in seconds.
If you can't locate one, I think I have one laying around.
BTW, many earliy 90's Fords had overheating issues so they are a great source of fans. Just as Chrysler products had a problem blowing tranny's and are a great source of huge trans coolers.
I just picked up one of those 3.8 Taurus fans for my FC last week out of the junkyard, cost me $20. My friend got one from a 3.0 Taurus, and it appears to be the same fan, maybe a slightly different shroud. I think the escort fans are about the same also.
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Note- Iotus has the 13b which sticks out 20mm more than the 12a. I would say, properly mounted, it only sticks out about 3 1/2 inches... but that's an eyeball guess... I can measure it tomorrow.



there's the view I have. Bad angle- there is actually 3-4 inches of space in front of that pulley.

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damn.... that looks really close!
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Note- I left a butt-load of extra plastic that I could/should have trimmed off, but even though you can't tell there, I still had about 3-4 inches between my fan and the water pump pulley.
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So, basically, all you you "knowledgable" guys are saying...

To save power, replace your old heavy fan with one from a junked Ford Probe.

I had read something earlier about these stock fans draining power. This'll help alot?
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Fine i'll go outside and get off my lazy *** and take pictures!!!!

Dam you ppl you demand so much! ;-p



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