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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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E-Fan usage on Gsl-Se with A/C

No, I'm not trying to open up another can of worms here :-)

I read almost all the threads on e-fans. What I noticed is that not all of them can be used if you have A/C. As a matter of fact, it seems that the threads assume that people do not run A/C with the e-fan swap. What I would like to know is what e-fans from other cars can be used with A/C that draw low amps (taurus is out of the question) and have enough CFM's?

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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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i believe i've seen some taurus fit w/ a/c but don't know how many hard it was to mod. and the mr2 fans also, there's a thread where someone installed one and he has an a/c seems like it was a tight fit.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Tim has the MR2 fan's, I think he also has AC. Look up t_g_farrell, that is his name on here.

Also, I believe the AC pully would be put too far and hit the back of the fan.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Since I don't have ac, can't help with that issue. If you're worried about amperage draw, upgrade your alt. the 70 amp s4 one is a direct bolt in and gives you 15 more amps than stock.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:21 AM
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I ran AC in my old 4-port 13B swapped FB with a Taurus e-fan. I remember shopping around for an AC-only accessory pulley, which only has one sheave, in order to get it to fit. Once that was done, though, it fit fine.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeezus
Tim has the MR2 fan's, I think he also has AC. Look up t_g_farrell, that is his name on here.

Also, I believe the AC pully would be put too far and hit the back of the fan.

Yeah I was looking at the MR2 fans, but wasn't sure of the amperage draw.

Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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i havent done an e-fan swap on my car yet (84 gsl-se) but i must be missing something. Ive done a ton of swaps on other types of cars, and given that there is physically enough room to fit the fan against the radiator without scrubbin a puller, i dont see the complication. Looking under the hood of my car, there is plenty of room. I have been using universal round fans setup either on relays tied to toggle switches, or relays controlled by a temp sensor. i must be missing something that makes it hard to install on an a/c car?
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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If a car has A/C, or worse both A/C and Power Steering, the front pulley has an accessory pulley on it as well, with one or two extra sheaves. If you use a full-size ducted fan, like out of a Taurus, they tend to be VERY close to the main pulley and pretty damn close to the water pump pulley as well. Granted, it's worse with the early cars that have 3-core radiators, particularly if someone has a short, 3-core radiator and 13B swap. It just gets tight.

If you use aftermarket fans that aren't ducted, like the standard round ones you mentioned, they're usually slim enough to not have problems, but then aren't ducted.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Crit
If a car has A/C, or worse both A/C and Power Steering, the front pulley has an accessory pulley on it as well, with one or two extra sheaves. If you use a full-size ducted fan, like out of a Taurus, they tend to be VERY close to the main pulley and pretty damn close to the water pump pulley as well. Granted, it's worse with the early cars that have 3-core radiators, particularly if someone has a short, 3-core radiator and 13B swap. It just gets tight.

If you use aftermarket fans that aren't ducted, like the standard round ones you mentioned, they're usually slim enough to not have problems, but then aren't ducted.
hmm, i just never noticed it being all that close in my car. no PS, but has A/C, and 13B. Ill have to attempt this with a taurus fan soon and see how the fitment is.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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84 GSL 12A PS AC, no emissions, double alternator pulley, Tarus fan. Haven't put one in a 13B but it looks like it would be very close.



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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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With a Fiero fan on my SE I had to remove the accessory pulley as it would not clear and even the water pump pulley was very close.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Man, I need a new belt. Why is it always the back one?
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