Hey, Im new and I was wondering if anyone drifts in a first gen 12A and how good they are for drifting. I've never drifted before and my gf has a 84 12A that needs a new rear end (diff and such). And I know when I get it fix the car will be pretty much mine (were getting married in about 2 years). Also do first gen 12A's have LSD's? Are they good for drifting?

 

no they dont, unless it is a gsl, the "posi" is the gsl-se wich is got the 13b fuel injection, if the rear has disk brakes, then its a gsl.

 

i drift with an open diff, just very weak.

 

Or you could actually try some real competition driving.



Is anyone else getting tired of the interminable number of 'DORIFTO FB' threads?

 

no. because if the FB gets into professinal drifting, we will get better parts for our cars. such as carbon fiber hoods, carbon fiber sunroofs. just think. before the ae86 got into it, they didnt have ****. now BIG BIG companys are making parts for it. just think of it as a good thing

 

:Shudders:
I like the idea of more offerings in the air dam and spoiler departments, and possibly more wheels. But, I tend to fear the sudden influx of CF body kits and such.

Yes.

 

I hear that adding neon lights to the underbody really helps out with the drifting, but I'm skeptical.... But stickers and vinyl on the other hand, now you're talking!

 

LT. Dan drifts his 12A 1st gen. He's more of a autocrosser but he brought it to the cloverleaf drift events down in richmond VA a a couple times and did a pretty nice job i might add. but im not sure what he has done to it though.

bryan

 

haters of new ****. i bet people were bashing computers when they first came out too!

 

yeah right

 

Nah, I was "drifting" some 20+ years ago. I actually used an old Ford truck with a small block and factory locker rearend.
Personally, I just prefer the idea that the first across the line is the winner, rather than an event that gets judged on style.

 

yeah, well i hate nascar!!!!!

 

maybe you guys are just TOO old to grasp the integrity and difficulty of it.

 

You need to do a lot of suspension work to really get the FB to properly drift. The biggest issue you'll have is HORSEPOWER!!! The FB just plain doesn't have enough stock to mantain a good drift at a slow speed. To really compete with anybody, I had to really go into a corner HOT to keep my momentum.... But I don't use my E-brake to drift, either....

Dan

 

I'd go for torque over HP. Torque's the twisting force, HP isn't.

 

there are some good drifters of the FB in atlanta, but they have 13bt engines and are pushing around 250 a piece. there was a thread about them on here not to long ago, search for it, it even has a video. i did a few drifts in my 84 12a with an open differential. i was just playing around humoring my e-braking using honda friends. i think if you want to play around you souldnt have a problem, but if youre wantiong to get serious, like Lt.Dan previously stated, youll need to spend some major cash on suspension and power mods. i think youd definately have to get it ported, go turbo, or a bigger engine with either of those mods.

 

No, No, No, You got it all wrong! The stickers and vinyl keep you from drifting. You see, in a recent study the wind resitance on the edges of the vinyl cause too much force to keep you from drifting properly. In order to drive properly, you must remove the vinyls, and add a fart can muffler.

 

You know thos neons add 20 hp and 15 tq to the wheels.

Its just a GS btw.

And I just want to have a RWD car to have fun in. Nothing more. But if I like drifting and decide to get more into it then I'll get a S13 or a AE86. But for now I just want to know if you can at all drift in a FB.

As you'll see in my profile and as you can tell by my name I have a 94 3000GT VR-4 w/ 63k on it. Its as most of you should know AWD, AWS and twin turbo with 320hp and 315tq stock. I'm running about 370hp now...thats taking a guess with my mods and what numbers have showed on other vr-4 with my mods. So with AWD I dont get to do burn outs or any slides so I dont have much fun that way. But I do get some killer launchs. Noting like a 1.60-1.70 60/ft. But I need some thing RWD lol.

 

I don't mind drifting so much, it's just that it attracts so many confused kids...

Anyway, I don't think it's real big in Michigan due to the fact that its hard to tell the difference between "drifting" and plain old winter driving..... Everybody drives sideways during winter in Mich.....

Good luck with your project!

 

Has anyone ever told you that you're a complete ******* idiot?

Because I can't be the first.

 

I have a 350hp Celica GT-4 and I can make it slide... Just feels really scary because of how hard I have to push. But ya I plan on AutoX and drifting my FB using my sterling setup. First I need to be out of college so I can have time and money tho.

 

The big thing your going to butt your head up against is the very large steering ratio, I found that it was difficult to pick-up the rear-end again after sliding. (I autocross, but my first year was on crap tires). You might have luck with a wet bit of pavement, but be careful on anything as narrow as a road because the sudden tendancy to oversteer can come on quick in a stock car. Also if you've got marginal (which it sounds like) experience driving a RWD sportcar, take it out to an autocross to get the feel for it before you toss it around the neerest sharp bend.
Grant

P.S. I don't endorse drifting, it's just a poor excuse to waste tires.

 

As the avatar makes it apparent, you can drift a stock 12a.(RBheader,tokicoHP's,RBSprings,VWRabbit R&P Steering, 105whp,15inch wheels)
Use a soft compound on the front tires and hard on the rear if you run a stock 12a, 13B will get the softer tires spinning no problem. I plan on a coil over for the front with dead coil springs for the rear at 350lbs.

 

drifting is about suspension, powertrain, and HP.
why bash drifting...you actually use the wheel....atleast there is thought that theese are good handling cars.
it could be worse....you could autox a mustang.

and if FB got a anime series and turned into a wanted car, then atleast they would be saved from the crusher. And get a better wheel and tire choices, along with "turbo kits" and carbon fiber bonnets and i would love to see a fb on some 20"s just so you can see around suvs

an easy way to get alot of power is go to a small block and build that. and its only a 2000lb car so 250 to 300 hp should feel natural to drift

 

FB is a decent drift car, but unless you have racing experience, forget it.

people that get into drifing because they have a friend with a stock s13, doesnt mean you need to go slide the thing around corners. you are going to kill someone or yourself.

get on a autox course or something where talent and skill actually comes into play. sure you can build a drift car out of a FB, but you can do the same out of a ford taurus if you try hard enough. the FB really kicks some *** in autox because of its light weight and great turn-in at low speeds.