GlaZer

well i was going over to my cousins house to borrow his dig cam b/c i wanted to post some pics of my carb cause i had some questions.

but on the way over there i got into a car accident
basically when merging into the freeway there was a car infront of me, when i glanced back to see if there was a car coming i saw a beemer but he was a good distance away were we could merge in... but when i looked back to the front the godamn car infront of me had come to a total stop so i was like 5 ft away when i tried to swerve the other way but it was 2late .

so we get off the road and the other driver get off the car and it was this lady who was like all scared and she told me she was just learning to drive... so i was like great. well anyways i just told her to pay me and i wouldnt call the cops... since she didnt have insurance. so i got a good enough money to start repairing it. but it kinda sucks anyways.

i put a picture, its not as bad as it looks, the only main thing that got damage was the radiator and the fan, but other than that i can fix.

TurboSE

OUCH!!! Sorry to hear that man
BTW it doent look that bad / I mean it does but looks like there's no frame damage
I know a guy who's parting out his GSL and he'll sell U all the front end 4 dirt cheap! Except the left fender! Just picked it up 4 my car

GlaZer

sweet i dont need the left dender that didnt take any damage, but i do need the rigth one, if you can get me some contact info that be great, and yeah its not as bad as it looks, the little sucker still ran after that oh yeah 12a powa

but the radiator was leaking so i had to get home fast.

TurboSE

PM'd ya w/ his info

Boswoj

If I understand the way that you described that accident, then you just did a pretty good job of getting money out of someone who was not at fault! It's not clear from your description whether she was already on the freway or ahead of you on the onramp, but either way I don't think that there is any possible way that it wasn't your fault. When merging onto the freeway the entering driver has virtually ALL of the responsibility and is strictly required to yield to traffic already on the freeway. If behind another driver on the onramp, even though it is one of the BIGGEST chump moves on the planet for her to stop on the onramp and look for a hole in traffic, you still have the responsibility to maintain safe following distance, as rear end accidents are the following cars fault about 98% of the time. Did I miss something in your description, or did you just dodge a bullet with some quick talking?

hammmy

That's the way I read it too, although it seems just that she pay for doing something so utterly idiotic.

Blake

Considering the accident was completely your fault, you were very lucky. Whether her reasons for stopping were legitimate (child running into the road, avoiding another stopped car, mechanical breakdown, etc.) or not (poor driving skill), it was your responsibility to be able to stop under those circumstances. This is called defensive driving. The burdon would be on you to prove that there was no way for you to have reasonably avoided the collision, such as if she was backing up or "swooping and squatting" (insurance fraud); anything else is due to your negligence at keeping a safe distance and remaining alert to changes ahead of you.

BTW, I've been rear-ended 3 times in two years (once getting sent to the hospital), so I'm in no mood to condone poor driving habits, even if there was another bad driver in the mix.

Mikeee

Wow, youre lucky you got money from her and that she didnt have insurance because its your fault, LOL, atleast here in TX it would be.

Sorry about your car, that sucks, hope you can fix it and get her back to normal! Good luck.

GlaZer

yeah i kind of figured it was my fault also, but i dont really think so, i mean she was already in the freeway lane when she stop, i mean it was literally a complete stop. Uncoming traffic had to move the other way to avoid her, and i did have a safe distance, but i will see if i can get pics from the accident site and u will see that the whole road was filled with dirt and small rocks so that made my car slide instead of breaking good. anyways i came out with some money and the only loss is that my 7 is going to be down 3 days plus, i already got it half way fixed, just need a welding machine wich i dont have

GreG36

if it was a freeway, why was there oncoming traffic? i also doubt that it had rocks and dirt in it, cause most freeways ive been on, are used pretty regularly and pretty clear...

anyways, sucks for the car but you were very lucky. we have all tons of those cloverleaf entrance ramps for or roads around here, and people always stop on there to look for an opening. i think i look more in front of me than behind me when im on the ramp, then look back to merge.

Pen_Two

Something somewhat similar happened to me, except I stopped just in time. Only problem was the Jeep behind me didn't. I got railed at 45 into the Intrepid R/T in front of me. I could have been partly at fault for it, except for the fact the driver of the Jeep was some "Valley Girl" and got out of her car screaming, "OMG IT'S ALL MY FAULT, OMG, OMG!"

Lol, stupidity is worth a grand on that one, literally.

Pen_Two

I would have to think the only way she was that stupid into giving you any money was because she didn't have any insurance and was just learning to drive, so she would have no idea how the laws work.

I tip my hat to your ability to bite the bullet and come out on top.

Rogue_Wulff

Technically speaking, she was totally at fault. Without insurance, she should not have been on the road. Had she not been on the road, you couldn't have hit her. While laws differ state to state, most often the person who has no insurance is blamed as being "at fault", due to having no legal right to operate a vehicle. Some states even consider it a felony to have a wreck without insurance. Many will automaticly suspend a license for this as well.
All of that does not remove that fact that you were actually at fault (inattentive driving would be the cops view), and just got lucky.

GlaZer

thats why i came out on top she told me she had no insurance and i just told her to pay me enough to repair my damages, she knew it was at her best interest, it could have gone the other way and i would only have gotten a ticket and insurance would have gone up but i gave her the option, and she decided to pay me.

anyways now that i took all the broken parts off it seems to be worster in a big part of the frame thats welded into the car. would it be easier to just transfer my engine to another car thats in whole?

devitek

I remember hearing about some country where the rear-end laws were the reverse of ours...

rxtasy3

iTrader: (2)

sorry to hear bout ur wreck but at least it can be fixed. don't u just hate those ppl that don't know how to merge onto a freeway? that sign says yield, not stop. just learning to drive and no insurance, she have a permit too? probably could've played that one to the max.

Blake

"Technically" the state of her insurance has nothing to do with the fact that he neglegently hit her. She could certainly get cited for opeperating a vehicle without insurance, but that doesn't make it her fault. Where the fact of having or not having insurance weighs into the determination of fault is almost certainly where the facts are disputed ("the light was green, officer!", "she was speeding around the corner, so I couldn't see her coming, officer."). In such a clear-cut matter as a rear end collision, I hardly think it has any bearing. I will admit, I could be wrong (at least in the case of some weird-*** states, like Lousiana or Massachusetts), but I doubt it. If there is a lawyer in the house, please set us straight.

Rogue_Wulff

Depends on the amount of frame damage, and the overall condition of the rest of this car. Is the damage limited to just the front part, or does it go beyond the front suspension mounts?
A nice rust free chassis that needs the front straightened/replaced could be better than a chassis that is straight, with lots of rust. A few years back, this would have been considered unrepairable, but these days it is fairly common to cut out and replace the bent areas. I have seen cases where 2 cars where literaly cut in half, and welded together to make one.
Properly done, this is considered safe, improperly done is a deathtrap.

Blake

I find that hard to believe, though anything is possible in this crazy world. In Italy, I recall (perhaps incorrectly) that the driver is responsible for the front half of his car. If you cut someone off and they don't yeild, and the damage is behind the front doors, it is the fault of the driver you hit (they were expected to get out of your way). But, if they speed up and you hit them broad-side, the accident is your fault. I was told that when visiting Naples and Rome, back in 1985, and given the wild driving I observed I had no reason to doubt the veracity of the explanation.

devitek

I think it was Great Britain that had the law, but I could be waaaay off base.

GlaZer

hmm i am thinking about just cutting the damn piece that is bent... but if i try and weld it together i dont know if it will be secured/safe as it was before. i am kinda stuck at were i am rigth now. any local rotor heads or body shop workers wanna help me . i wanna have my car runnign by tomorrow.

Rogue_Wulff

Got any pics of what is bent? This could make the difference between whether it needs to be replaced, or can simply be straightened.

jayroc

Yeah, it is very unexpected/unusual that somebody would stop in the expressway lane.. Was it the onramp or was she stopped in a lane trying to get over? I dunno how rear end laws effect stopped vehicles in the middle of the road.. Some roads around here have minumum speeds so that may negate some of your liability for the accident if that was true, but still you should be more careful, man. Though, sometimes **** happens. I hit a deer comin over a blind hill last year, it damaged the car just enough to be a pain in the *** to fix and no more.
Good luck gettin your car fixed!

rotor vs. piston

Good job!! I hope you didn't give her any of your personel info. You have lived my dream, getting paid to run into a dumb @ss

GlaZer

thx dude

well here are some pics of the damage. pretty damn hard its gonna be to straigthen out that piece that holds the bumper , and no godamn ideas of how to do it