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Parhelius 09-29-03 10:35 PM

Burnouts (Can you do em?)
 
Ok, Long story cut short.

I got a mate who thinks he has done a burnout in reverse in a RWD car. I dont believe it is possible, but he says he can do them just as tight as doing one in the fowards direction. This cannot be the case, as I explained to him that the ass of the car wants to go straight back, so to a side lol. He still fought back giving me more possibilities, but I dont believe it to be the case.

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·[c]ArCuS· its the same as doing a fowards doughy in a fwd
•Parhelius• Whether there is hard hand brake
•Parhelius• Soft hand brake
•Parhelius• or no hand brake heh
·[c]ArCuS· u can do that too
·[c]ArCuS· just the front wheels spin and the back freewheels
•Parhelius• So now your saying you can to a doughnut in a FWD going foward ways?
·[c]ArCuS· but u can still get it into a constant spin and have atleast one set of wheels spinning
·[c]ArCuS· yes
•Parhelius• Without the handbrake?
·[c]ArCuS· we do it all the time
·[c]ArCuS· ill even get it on fucken digi camera and send you it
•Parhelius• Without the HB it would go straight foward
•Parhelius• With full HB it wouldn't move
·[c]ArCuS· nope
•Parhelius• Without HB and full steer, it'd just understeer

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·[c]ArCuS· try it yourself
•Parhelius• LOL I have tryed it myself
•Parhelius• I could even get a pro to say it cannot be done
·[c]ArCuS· allow yourself plenty of space
·[c]ArCuS· then u didnt do it properly then
•Parhelius• But there is nothing that is pushing the cars ass to either side
•Parhelius• Thats logic
•Parhelius• The front wheels dont help at all, at the ass is pulling STRAIGHT back
•Parhelius• Turning the front wheels and releasing the brake will cause the whole car to appear to "strafe"
•Parhelius• Not spin
•Parhelius• When you do it in a RWD in foward it spins cuz the ass is pushing foward
·[c]ArCuS· yes, it is correct that in doing a reverse doughy in a rwd or vice versa the wheels at the back are not doing the work. Its done in a way that the wheels at the front, whether its the rear wheels of a rwd of front wheels of a fwd going in reverse are pulling the ass around, and kicking up a shitload of mud, which in essance is a doughnut back to front
•Parhelius• And you make an imbalance in the steering when you steer
·[c]ArCuS· hence the name 'dough-n'outs'
·[c]ArCuS· the ass is spiining around
·[c]ArCuS· and it is possible
•Parhelius• Explain to me what makes the cars ass want to go sideways...
•Parhelius• Cuz in reverse it wqants to go make
•Parhelius• back*
•Parhelius• And fowards wants to go foward
·[c]ArCuS· in a rear wheel drive, you go in reverse in a straight line, then turn sharply and dump the gas
•Parhelius• Steering while going foward makes the imbalance possible which makes the doughy start
•Parhelius• Like what Arniue does
•Parhelius• On terminator 2?
·[c]ArCuS· the front (now actually the ass) will get thrown around

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·[c]ArCuS· u kno how u have a weight at the end of a string and u spin it around?
•Parhelius• Do a normal doughy
•Parhelius• In drive
•Parhelius• Going foward etc
•Parhelius• Make it nice and tight
·[c]ArCuS· it acts like that
•Parhelius• Then follow those same marks in reverse
•Parhelius• You'll never get a tight doughy
•Parhelius• The weight is in the front though
•Parhelius• And when your going reverse
·[c]ArCuS· as I sed, Taz couldnt beleive it wen he saw it too
•Parhelius• The front (where the egiune is) is getting thrown onto the "end of the string"
·[c]ArCuS· yes
·[c]ArCuS· effectivly, its a back to front doughy
•Parhelius• So if the front is "on the string" then the front will try to spin around
•Parhelius• Which fucks up the balance at the back
·[c]ArCuS· dough-n'out
•Parhelius• Making a reverse doughnut inpossible
•Parhelius• Even for a rear engined car
•Parhelius• I can do a constant reverse doughy, but only no less than the width of the turning radius of the car
·[c]ArCuS· well explain to me how I managed to do it at himitangi beach then?
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Someone help heh, I need more people's opinions, He wont listen to just one person

Ta

AdrenalifeRX7 09-30-03 12:14 AM

I can do a burnout any which way you like it. I can also easily do 360's without barely trying.:D

FB II 09-30-03 01:42 AM

yea dude, my friends cobra (i n0 i n0) does any burnout you like. going out of his driveway he does them in reverse quite a bit.

christaylor 09-30-03 02:20 AM

Okay, now that I answered your poll question, explain to me your crazy Aussie slang in the poll options. :D

Ultralights 09-30-03 02:35 AM

i smoke the bags all the time! rather expensive smoke as well with alzenis!

what aussie slang are you yackin about mate?

XLR8 09-30-03 05:23 AM

I can do them but don't like too. I saw Rotorizit through his rearend doing a burnout in reverse........We have it on video too:)

jimmdog 09-30-03 06:42 AM

Yea what XLR8 said I can make the car pivot on the left front wheel no problem. reverse is no problem but sometimes I get wicked wheel hop, but after loosing my spider gears last year I dont do it any more

82streetracer 09-30-03 07:34 PM

my rx7 will no burn out in reverse, the whole car will hop in the air the wheelhop is so bad, but it will burn out normally going forward.

My old Crown vic could smoke the tires in reverse, and I could do great burnouts with that thing.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...postid=1995008

82streetracer 09-30-03 07:36 PM

I miss that thing.

Im thinking of getting anouther one, just like that one, but with a twin turbo 351 and a 5 speed.

that would be cool as shit. what a sleeper.

Rex79 09-30-03 08:08 PM

how exactly do you do a burnout?

I never tried it but I guess it should be like this:

Rev to like 5000RPM and dump the clutch, give a shit load of gas and pull the handbrake?

no?

Pedestrian X 09-30-03 08:15 PM

Dont touch the handbrake if your tryign to do a burnout in a rear wheel drive car. All teh handbrake does is lock up the rear wheels.. so it would just be stupid.. You got the above right just forget about the hand brake and your good to go. You could try a "brake stand", Very easy in an auto just put it in a low gear hold brake and stomp the gas. Makes for an awsome smoke show.. My moms 96 firebird is lotsa fun for stuff like that. Brake stand in a standard transmision car can be sorta tricky but wiht some practice you can get the hang of it.. None of the above is too great for you car it places alot of stress on the drive train and after awhile something is bound to break. Unless you setup some sort of line lock then its all fun and games.

candyassmiler 09-30-03 08:16 PM

correct me if im wrong, but i think the handbrake would produce negative effects in a rwd. i suppose if youre car tuckers out mid burnout sooner than pleases you the best thing to do would be dump the clutch and sit on the brake.

Rex79 09-30-03 08:20 PM

but when I only dump the clutch and give gas I don't do a burnout.... my tires spin like mad but I move foward...

candyassmiler 09-30-03 08:29 PM

try dumping it at 5 grand or so and stomping the brake.....should do the brake...but if you arent spinning enough you migh just choke out.....give it a shot

setzep 09-30-03 08:50 PM

Gears 1 2 and 3 :D

setzep 09-30-03 08:51 PM

Gears 1, 2 and 3 :D

82transam 09-30-03 09:09 PM

Fb's will burn em like mad if you want to, since they are so light, but its real hard on everything. Just avoid it, its dumb. While the FB does do a nice burnout its nothing compared to my Trans Am, now that will do a excellent burnout, 1st, 2nd, and a bark in third, both tires blazin. ahhh memeories of high school come flooding back....

Gregs 10-01-03 05:09 AM

i should be able to burn out tomorrow when im dont with my 5 speed swap..

lemme tell you.. automatic were not made to go with the rotary engine

low torque=auto=BAD

Sterling 10-01-03 06:08 AM

I used to be able to chirp in third gear shifts with 185s. Now I have 265s, and I'm hard pressed to get second to go!
But when I lay into first, the car wants to spin right around on me.
I have an SE pumpkin. Gotta love those double patches! ;)

SA22C_NZ 04-29-04 09:50 PM

Anyone who thinks they can't cut it loose into a tyre frying spin should go back into the garage and fix it or try harder. Rotors cut sick mean assed locks - especially with a locker driving the rear bags :)

r0tary noob 04-29-04 10:01 PM

Rotors cut sick mean assed locks - especially with a locker driving the rear bags this is the type of slang that christaylor was talking about, were silly americans, I could figure it out, but it can be slightly annoying, oh well I say hood you say bonnet W/E

YapaKanichi 04-29-04 10:03 PM

spinners are easy. I can do em at 30MPh. Just did one tonight. American Muscle cars do em good, but we do em better. If you can't do a donught or a burn out without revving it up, go to an empty parking lot and practice. I just sit there and smash the gas and cut the wheel and the car goes insane. It's awesome I'm never going back to pistons. NEVER!

luiml73 04-29-04 10:31 PM

I think I'm going to need a bigger turbo:D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5/f97f6095.jpg

85rotarypower 04-29-04 10:44 PM

Wow, those are some reallllly wide tires. What are they, 265? 275? They look really wide. I saw some really wide tires on the back of an early 90's corvette the other day. Must have been 305 or wider.

As for burnouts, Its easy. I took my car out for the first drive today (just around the block mind you), and I got on it in first coming out of a parking lot a little more than I wanted. I think I slightly spun the rear wheels. I wasn't even trying. I have LSD too.

comradegiant 04-29-04 10:45 PM

If by burnout you mean donut, then no. If you mean spinning the tires with smoke, no problem. Even my 200sx could do that. In reverse that is. Forwards is no problem.


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