Burnouts (Can you do em?)
 

Ok, Long story cut short.

I got a mate who thinks he has done a burnout in reverse in a RWD car. I dont believe it is possible, but he says he can do them just as tight as doing one in the fowards direction. This cannot be the case, as I explained to him that the ass of the car wants to go straight back, so to a side lol. He still fought back giving me more possibilities, but I dont believe it to be the case.

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·[c]ArCuS· its the same as doing a fowards doughy in a fwd
•Parhelius• Whether there is hard hand brake
•Parhelius• Soft hand brake
•Parhelius• or no hand brake heh
·[c]ArCuS· u can do that too
·[c]ArCuS· just the front wheels spin and the back freewheels
•Parhelius• So now your saying you can to a doughnut in a FWD going foward ways?
·[c]ArCuS· but u can still get it into a constant spin and have atleast one set of wheels spinning
·[c]ArCuS· yes
•Parhelius• Without the handbrake?
·[c]ArCuS· we do it all the time
·[c]ArCuS· ill even get it on fucken digi camera and send you it
•Parhelius• Without the HB it would go straight foward
•Parhelius• With full HB it wouldn't move
·[c]ArCuS· nope
•Parhelius• Without HB and full steer, it'd just understeer

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·[c]ArCuS· try it yourself
•Parhelius• LOL I have tryed it myself
•Parhelius• I could even get a pro to say it cannot be done
·[c]ArCuS· allow yourself plenty of space
·[c]ArCuS· then u didnt do it properly then
•Parhelius• But there is nothing that is pushing the cars ass to either side
•Parhelius• Thats logic
•Parhelius• The front wheels dont help at all, at the ass is pulling STRAIGHT back
•Parhelius• Turning the front wheels and releasing the brake will cause the whole car to appear to "strafe"
•Parhelius• Not spin
•Parhelius• When you do it in a RWD in foward it spins cuz the ass is pushing foward
·[c]ArCuS· yes, it is correct that in doing a reverse doughy in a rwd or vice versa the wheels at the back are not doing the work. Its done in a way that the wheels at the front, whether its the rear wheels of a rwd of front wheels of a fwd going in reverse are pulling the ass around, and kicking up a shitload of mud, which in essance is a doughnut back to front
•Parhelius• And you make an imbalance in the steering when you steer
·[c]ArCuS· hence the name 'dough-n'outs'
·[c]ArCuS· the ass is spiining around
·[c]ArCuS· and it is possible
•Parhelius• Explain to me what makes the cars ass want to go sideways...
•Parhelius• Cuz in reverse it wqants to go make
•Parhelius• back*
•Parhelius• And fowards wants to go foward
·[c]ArCuS· in a rear wheel drive, you go in reverse in a straight line, then turn sharply and dump the gas
•Parhelius• Steering while going foward makes the imbalance possible which makes the doughy start
•Parhelius• Like what Arniue does
•Parhelius• On terminator 2?
·[c]ArCuS· the front (now actually the ass) will get thrown around

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·[c]ArCuS· u kno how u have a weight at the end of a string and u spin it around?
•Parhelius• Do a normal doughy
•Parhelius• In drive
•Parhelius• Going foward etc
•Parhelius• Make it nice and tight
·[c]ArCuS· it acts like that
•Parhelius• Then follow those same marks in reverse
•Parhelius• You'll never get a tight doughy
•Parhelius• The weight is in the front though
•Parhelius• And when your going reverse
·[c]ArCuS· as I sed, Taz couldnt beleive it wen he saw it too
•Parhelius• The front (where the egiune is) is getting thrown onto the "end of the string"
·[c]ArCuS· yes
·[c]ArCuS· effectivly, its a back to front doughy
•Parhelius• So if the front is "on the string" then the front will try to spin around
•Parhelius• Which fucks up the balance at the back
·[c]ArCuS· dough-n'out
•Parhelius• Making a reverse doughnut inpossible
•Parhelius• Even for a rear engined car
•Parhelius• I can do a constant reverse doughy, but only no less than the width of the turning radius of the car
·[c]ArCuS· well explain to me how I managed to do it at himitangi beach then?
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Someone help heh, I need more people's opinions, He wont listen to just one person

Ta

I can do a burnout any which way you like it. I can also easily do 360's without barely trying.:D

yea dude, my friends cobra (i n0 i n0) does any burnout you like. going out of his driveway he does them in reverse quite a bit.

Okay, now that I answered your poll question, explain to me your crazy Aussie slang in the poll options. :D

i smoke the bags all the time! rather expensive smoke as well with alzenis!

what aussie slang are you yackin about mate?

I can do them but don't like too. I saw Rotorizit through his rearend doing a burnout in reverse........We have it on video too:)

Yea what XLR8 said I can make the car pivot on the left front wheel no problem. reverse is no problem but sometimes I get wicked wheel hop, but after loosing my spider gears last year I dont do it any more

my rx7 will no burn out in reverse, the whole car will hop in the air the wheelhop is so bad, but it will burn out normally going forward.

My old Crown vic could smoke the tires in reverse, and I could do great burnouts with that thing.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...postid=1995008

I miss that thing.

Im thinking of getting anouther one, just like that one, but with a twin turbo 351 and a 5 speed.

that would be cool as shit. what a sleeper.

how exactly do you do a burnout?

I never tried it but I guess it should be like this:

Rev to like 5000RPM and dump the clutch, give a shit load of gas and pull the handbrake?

no?

Dont touch the handbrake if your tryign to do a burnout in a rear wheel drive car. All teh handbrake does is lock up the rear wheels.. so it would just be stupid.. You got the above right just forget about the hand brake and your good to go. You could try a "brake stand", Very easy in an auto just put it in a low gear hold brake and stomp the gas. Makes for an awsome smoke show.. My moms 96 firebird is lotsa fun for stuff like that. Brake stand in a standard transmision car can be sorta tricky but wiht some practice you can get the hang of it.. None of the above is too great for you car it places alot of stress on the drive train and after awhile something is bound to break. Unless you setup some sort of line lock then its all fun and games.

correct me if im wrong, but i think the handbrake would produce negative effects in a rwd. i suppose if youre car tuckers out mid burnout sooner than pleases you the best thing to do would be dump the clutch and sit on the brake.

but when I only dump the clutch and give gas I don't do a burnout.... my tires spin like mad but I move foward...

try dumping it at 5 grand or so and stomping the brake.....should do the brake...but if you arent spinning enough you migh just choke out.....give it a shot

Gears 1 2 and 3 :D

Gears 1, 2 and 3 :D

Fb's will burn em like mad if you want to, since they are so light, but its real hard on everything. Just avoid it, its dumb. While the FB does do a nice burnout its nothing compared to my Trans Am, now that will do a excellent burnout, 1st, 2nd, and a bark in third, both tires blazin. ahhh memeories of high school come flooding back....

i should be able to burn out tomorrow when im dont with my 5 speed swap..

lemme tell you.. automatic were not made to go with the rotary engine

low torque=auto=BAD

I used to be able to chirp in third gear shifts with 185s. Now I have 265s, and I'm hard pressed to get second to go!
But when I lay into first, the car wants to spin right around on me.
I have an SE pumpkin. Gotta love those double patches! ;)

Anyone who thinks they can't cut it loose into a tyre frying spin should go back into the garage and fix it or try harder. Rotors cut sick mean assed locks - especially with a locker driving the rear bags :)

Rotors cut sick mean assed locks - especially with a locker driving the rear bags this is the type of slang that christaylor was talking about, were silly americans, I could figure it out, but it can be slightly annoying, oh well I say hood you say bonnet W/E

spinners are easy. I can do em at 30MPh. Just did one tonight. American Muscle cars do em good, but we do em better. If you can't do a donught or a burn out without revving it up, go to an empty parking lot and practice. I just sit there and smash the gas and cut the wheel and the car goes insane. It's awesome I'm never going back to pistons. NEVER!

I think I'm going to need a bigger turbo:D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5/f97f6095.jpg

Wow, those are some reallllly wide tires. What are they, 265? 275? They look really wide. I saw some really wide tires on the back of an early 90's corvette the other day. Must have been 305 or wider.

As for burnouts, Its easy. I took my car out for the first drive today (just around the block mind you), and I got on it in first coming out of a parking lot a little more than I wanted. I think I slightly spun the rear wheels. I wasn't even trying. I have LSD too.

If by burnout you mean donut, then no. If you mean spinning the tires with smoke, no problem. Even my 200sx could do that. In reverse that is. Forwards is no problem.

Hah. It is a problem for some cars. My friends 1980 crapmaro can't even light up the tires in the wet. It has a 305 too. Thing is, its probably only putting out 50hp right now. The car sucks overall.

how do u do a brake stand in a manual?

315/35-17

Do you mean burn out by this?

If so, Rev it to 7k Pop the clutch and press the brakes with the left foot.

rev to 4-5k then drop and switch to brakes real quick, and light

haha beat you to it!!

J/k

i think ur friend won that argument u can burnout in reverse

I would do burnouts in Reverse with my 81 Toyota Wagon all the time. A buddy of mine did not belive it untill I went by his house in Reverse smoking. Never tried a Donut in reverse, Pleanty of 180 turn arounds though.

yay rockford files

my friend eric and i bought this car for 50 bucks and put a little work into her and sold her for 350. it would burn out like a champ. here are the pics on eric's website: http://schreindogg.gotdns.com/car/pi...out/index.html

If anyone wants to see a LONG brakestand check this video out

http://s87357361.onlinehome.us/phibe...brakestand.avi

This is a bone stock 84 SE right when I got it before I did anything to it cooking 195-60-14's

HAHa I just got a brand new clutch, centerforce dual friction on a stock FB, I can light em up all daylong. They spinlike crazy, but dont smoke until I get into second. And I can only get into second if Im doing doughnuts. But in a straight line, I can burn most of 1st, bark 2nd really long and hard, and chirp third pretty well. I have yet to do any doughnuts w/ the new clucth, its gonna be nuts when I do.

yes i can burnout in reverse and forward, even stock rexs that are in good shape, hold the break a lil and ur gonna smoke the road up,

if i drop the clutch at 8000 i kinda hop a few times then get the breaks to hold me

no sound:(

Dropping at 8K. thats what lead me to replacing my cltuch. I wouldnt do that to often, its really hard on everything.

I agree with tanjo. You really only need to drop it at 4000-5000 rpm to get the burnout going. 8000 rpm is crazy, especially on a stock clutch. I wouldn't dream of doing that even on a HD clutch.

Wow 8000rpm dump.... That is harsh, the most I have ever needed to do is 3500-4000rpm even on 225 wide tires, I'm surprised you U-joints are still intact let alone the clutch

i welded my spider gears together to make it a true possie. i have gone through 2 sets of tires just on the rear. front are still like new. i try to keep the carbon content down. but yeah my 83 gsl will light them up all day long.

i welded my spider gears together to make it a true possie. i have gone through 2 sets of tires just on the rear. front are still like new. i try to keep the carbon content down. but yeah my 83 gsl will light them up all day long.

i welded my spider gears together to make it a true possie. i have gone through 2 sets of tires just on the rear. front are still like new. i try to keep the carbon content down. but yeah my 83 gsl will light them up all day long.

what a tripple post? sorry guys my computer is an old piece of shit. not to mention the stupid dial up. bunch of b/s

figgin awesome.

That vid is the shiznit

Is that your car eville?

yes, this was a while back right after I got it running.

Later
Randy