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Anyone seen a MELTED transmission before?

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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Anyone seen a MELTED transmission before?

Okay people, I figured once i got some pictures, I'd post em and see if this has ever happened to anyone else, because neither me nor my mechanic have ever seen this kinda thing happen before...







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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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i know this doesnt help, holy ****.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:24 AM
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low on fluid?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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I'm more interested in what the symptoms were before you felt or heard anything. What was it doing just before it gave out?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Towing with the drive wheels down?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Wow. And I thought breaking my tranny's case in half was extreme.
I think you win, dude:-P
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Box_Man
Towing with the drive wheels down?
im leaning toward that myself.

but id be curious to know what it did and what noises it made before you took it apart.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cute
im leaning toward that myself.

but id be curious to know what it did and what noises it made before you took it apart.
Ya i have to agree on a totally guessing thing maybe it was like in reverse and then towe'd foward? or the other way around i have no idea about any of that crap just seems like something i'd picture picture the sound that woulda had to make it doesnt look melted it looks like it was forced to rub really really fast that the metal got a little soft from the friction and boom
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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why would towing wheels down melt the tranny?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by djessence
why would towing wheels down melt the tranny?
say you have a car in reverse and the car is being towed forward on the wheels that power goes to.....what that forcing the tranny to do?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by djessence
why would towing wheels down melt the tranny?
^^ read what i said lol
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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^^ read what i said lol
What you said is largely incorherent. I still don't see how this would melt the tranny. How is it any different than driving it, and with towing backwards its not like you'd have it in gear.... maybe im missing something crucial?

2cute. Back wheels on ground, towing forward. Forces drivetrain to spin. If it was in gear, then i would imagine engine would not be in great shape either....
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by djessence
What you said is largely incorherent. I still don't see how this would melt the tranny. How is it any different than driving it, and with towing backwards its not like you'd have it in gear.... maybe im missing something crucial?

2cute. Back wheels on ground, towing forward. Forces drivetrain to spin. If it was in gear, then i would imagine engine would not be in great shape either....
probably not but we were tlking about the tranny
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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okay, just so you know, this car has only been towed with it's drive wheels down a couple of times but both of those times were a REALLY long time ago. I have always had it towed on the back of a truck. So towing was not the issue.

I was actually driving south on I-5 leaving Washington. I was cruising along at 65 mph using the cruise control, minding my own business, then I noticed that my car was slowing down. I was like "WTF?" so when i pushed the gas, i got no feedback in the pedal and the Tach just revved up to 6K as though i wasn't even in gear (first hint.) So then I decided to drop it into fourth (which still worked) and i drove it to the next exit and to the first gas station. When I came to the stop light at the exit, I also came to the painful realization that I had also lost 1st and 2nd. So I get my car into the gas station, call AAA and get it towed (ON A BED) to the nearest auto shop. I was low on fluid at that point, but not that low. (I also lost reverse too.) Since we lost all the secondary gears, I figured I lost the secondary gear shaft or something.

The interesting thing about all this is that I had actually been driving the car around the week before doing errands and had absolutely 0 problems. And when I was driving it the day of doom, it wasn't making any weird sounds either. The only thing that may have been a symptom (or it may have just been the road) was the fact that when the cruise control wasn't accelerating and just cruising I could hear a slight buzzing, but it may just have been because there are spots on I-5 that seriously need to be re-paved...

Oh, it also got hot enough while the gears were melting to totally fry the seal at the end of the tranny, so that as my gears were heating up and melting, i was probably losing even more fluid.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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same thing happened to my buddys manual ford ranger, idiot forgot to put fluid in it after he changed his clutch, not only did they melt but they melted together so he couldnt even shift
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx-7fetish
same thing happened to my buddys manual ford ranger, idiot forgot to put fluid in it after he changed his clutch, not only did they melt but they melted together so he couldnt even shift
got any pics thats badass
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LonelyCorpse
got any pics thats badass
no, i wish i had, they were on my old phone and i never transfered them to my pc before the phone broke.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Well mine didn't melt together... but if you look at that gear that's totally melted down, you can see that it has actually gone beyond the point of being smooth and had started getting rough again because of the heat...
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cute
say you have a car in reverse and the car is being towed forward on the wheels that power goes to.....what that forcing the tranny to do?
All it would do is cause the drive train and engine to rotate backwards.

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Your gears didn't melt. lol

One of the gears must of been damaged or worn to the point where they were no longer meshing correctly. Once that happens the gears will grind themselves to bits and obviously generate a lot of heat.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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That can't be stock hp? lol.. nice.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Looks like the tranny that my SE had when I got it. The tranny was leaking oil, but the guy thought it was engine oil for some reason. He then took it on a long road trip. On the way back, it started making noise, but he kept going. When I got the car, there was no third gear. After tearing the tranny down, you could see no teeth were left on third and everything else was blue due to the heat generated by running with no oil.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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these are some badass pics, i'm sorry it happened to you man
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