anyone run a panhard bar on the street.
#26
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Originally posted by 82streetracer
How difficult will it be to install?
How much welding is involved?
How difficult will it be to install?
How much welding is involved?
#27
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Originally posted by 82streetracer
g forces stuff is exspensive
Ground control sells a panhard bar kit for $120
g forces stuff is exspensive
Ground control sells a panhard bar kit for $120
#28
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Originally posted by inittab
yea and "get rich quick" books really work too as long as you sign up for "their" distributorship.
I'm sure he knows his stuff but I would think if he wanted to sell "hardware" then he might want to at least "try" to sell the benefits of his wares on his web site. I dunno, it seems like a strange sales strategy to me. But I suppose if his stuff doesn't work for street then I guess the strategy might work for the racers.
yea and "get rich quick" books really work too as long as you sign up for "their" distributorship.
I'm sure he knows his stuff but I would think if he wanted to sell "hardware" then he might want to at least "try" to sell the benefits of his wares on his web site. I dunno, it seems like a strange sales strategy to me. But I suppose if his stuff doesn't work for street then I guess the strategy might work for the racers.
#31
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Originally posted by Kill No Cone
Hey, StreetRacer,
Ground Control may advertise their Panhard bar for $160, but I am not sure they still make them. I called a couple of times and they told me they just have not had time to make them in more than a year.
G-Forces stuff is great and does not break. That is a concern with 300 hp turbo engine. His book is also well worth the money. I know it saved me more than $75 in errors.
best of luck!
Hey, StreetRacer,
Ground Control may advertise their Panhard bar for $160, but I am not sure they still make them. I called a couple of times and they told me they just have not had time to make them in more than a year.
G-Forces stuff is great and does not break. That is a concern with 300 hp turbo engine. His book is also well worth the money. I know it saved me more than $75 in errors.
best of luck!
#34
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Originally posted by 82streetracer
I think im going to get the book, and when I understand the system, then ill buy the parts.
I think im going to get the book, and when I understand the system, then ill buy the parts.
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Amen,
Some years ago I thought I was smarter than most folks and built mt Rx7 based on my knowledge. In the end I had an expensive and slow car.
This time around I studied before I bought, and I have not had to by anything two or three times to get it right. And, I am building a quicker and quicker car.
There is an old saying, "speed is expensive, how fast can you afford to go?" I can tell you it is a whole lot more expensive when you buy dumb.
Good luck!
Some years ago I thought I was smarter than most folks and built mt Rx7 based on my knowledge. In the end I had an expensive and slow car.
This time around I studied before I bought, and I have not had to by anything two or three times to get it right. And, I am building a quicker and quicker car.
There is an old saying, "speed is expensive, how fast can you afford to go?" I can tell you it is a whole lot more expensive when you buy dumb.
Good luck!
#39
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#42
which would work better for high speed stability?
stock diameter 205/50/15s with about 6 inches of clearance or 195/45/15s and substantially lower.
How much narrower is the 195 vs the 205. and how mutch lateral grip would I probably loose.
I would really like the car alot lower. I see these spec7s that are like a half inch off the ground and it looks sweet.
stock diameter 205/50/15s with about 6 inches of clearance or 195/45/15s and substantially lower.
How much narrower is the 195 vs the 205. and how mutch lateral grip would I probably loose.
I would really like the car alot lower. I see these spec7s that are like a half inch off the ground and it looks sweet.
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I posted in the Watts linkage thread about this. Mazda engineers had reasons for choosing the Watts linkage, specifically a lower roll center and more compact design (to meet rear-impact standards, the body would have had to be 3 inches longer with a Panhard rod)
Factory sponsored RX-3s had used Watts linkages and Mazda was satisfied with the handling results.
Factory sponsored RX-3s had used Watts linkages and Mazda was satisfied with the handling results.
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How much narrower is the 195 vs the 205. and how mutch lateral grip would I probably loose.
Lateral grip is harder to say, up to a point the less sidewall the better... tires are an integral part of the supsension, less sidewall usually means stiffer sidewall, which like stiffer sprigs may or may not help with cornering power, but usually give a better feel. I think you could be happy with either, but personally I think it depends more on the tire make-model than such a small change... but I could be wrong on this one.
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typically though, the lower the profile the stiffer the sidewall AND the straighter the sidewall (more 'square shouldered') meaning a larger contact patch.
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I guess in my rambling I didn't make myself clear, thanks Manntis for helping to avoid confusion (wider sidewall meant taller or more sidewall == less contact patch) So a 195/45 has more tread than a 195/55 which is what most might run to keep their speedo happy, but 195/45 probably won't have much less than 205/50
#48
i want the shorter gears.
also, I was thinking, with a reduction in gearing at the tires, wont that put less stress on the drivetrain.
I have the 205s on there now and with the addition of the panhard setup I should be able to go anouther half in lower.
Im going to get the 195s when I wear through these and then I should be able to lower the car almost anouther inch, in addition to the less sidewall.
that should get the car down.
And at high speed, arnt skinnier tires better. less darty
also, I was thinking, with a reduction in gearing at the tires, wont that put less stress on the drivetrain.
I have the 205s on there now and with the addition of the panhard setup I should be able to go anouther half in lower.
Im going to get the 195s when I wear through these and then I should be able to lower the car almost anouther inch, in addition to the less sidewall.
that should get the car down.
And at high speed, arnt skinnier tires better. less darty
#49
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Originally posted by Manntis
I posted in the Watts linkage thread about this. Mazda engineers had reasons for choosing the Watts linkage, specifically a lower roll center and more compact design (to meet rear-impact standards, the body would have had to be 3 inches longer with a Panhard rod)
Factory sponsored RX-3s had used Watts linkages and Mazda was satisfied with the handling results.
I posted in the Watts linkage thread about this. Mazda engineers had reasons for choosing the Watts linkage, specifically a lower roll center and more compact design (to meet rear-impact standards, the body would have had to be 3 inches longer with a Panhard rod)
Factory sponsored RX-3s had used Watts linkages and Mazda was satisfied with the handling results.
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About the watts link.... I don't understand how a solid axle suspension works... What is the problem with the watts link.... eh, what does it even do (It looks like its there to keep the axle in place laterally)