White84SE

Alright, here's my problem. My '82 S won't start. The alternator took a crap on me earlier in the week and killed my battery. I swapped one off a parts car, and while I was in there, I replaced the starter as it has been giving me troubles as well. I was driving another car for the rest of the week and my Rex sat for four days. Now, it won't start. I've got fuel and I've got spark. Car was flooded, so I pulled all the plugs out and cranked it over for a while. However, since it's an '82 the pump runs constantly with the key on, so gas just keeps coming through. Where's the link to the unflooding procedure for these cars? I searched for it, but couldn't find it. Also, any suggestions on what to check? I dumped a bottle of drygas in, thinking water may have gotten into the fuel, but that hasn't help.. I need this damn thing to run next week, so any help is much appreciated... thanks,

--Danny

Rx7carl

Crimp the fuel hose to the carb with vise grips to keep the fuel from comming thru. You got the rest of unflooding in control.

RotorMotorDriver

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Or pull the fuel pump fuse .

~T.J.

White84SE

D'oh! Never thought of the fuel pump fuse...

--Danny

Rx7carl

What pump fuse? Theres an engine fuse but not one specific for the pump IIRC.

MosesX605

There wasn't a fuel pump fuse in my '82. What did the engine fuse control in the '82? Mine blew once and boy did my motor run bad!

White84SE

No, there's a fuse specifically for the fuel pump. It's a ten amp, located towards the rear of the car on towards the passenger side. It's perpendicular to the other fuses..

--Danny

Matty's first 1st Gen

i find that taking out each individual spark plug and with small plumbers' torch burning the gas, and heating them up works pretty well

RotorMotorDriver

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I knew I wasnt crazy . As youre sitting in the drivers seat, look down at the fuse box. Its the only fuse running front to back of the car that you can see, or the one closest to you off to the right. Does that even make sense?

~T.J.

RotorMotorDriver

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Neverfuckingmind, Im retarded...Haha

~t.J.

White84SE

Update: Still no start. I replaced the battery with one rated a 660 CCA, so I've got enough juice. I drained out the old fuel and replaced with new. Before I hooked the fuel line to the carb, I popped out the plugs again and cranked until no gas came out of the plug holes. Reinstalled plugs and fuel line. Turned key on, gave fuel some time to get to carb and tried to fire it up. Still just cranks and cranks. HELP! I need this car as soon as possible, and if I can't count on it, I'm gonna unload it..

--Danny

Rx7carl

SO you got good spark? Will it fire with starting fluid? And whats causing the flooding?

White84SE

Yes, I've got good spark to all four plugs, and all the plugs are new NGK's. I haven't tried ether, didn't know if it'd hurt rotaries or not, so I figured better not try it. I really wish I knew what was causing the flooding.. at this point, my only guess is that the carb needs rebuilt...

White84SE

Well, tried some starting fluid.. still no go.. chugged a little bit then just turned and turned and turned... well, looks like I'll be pulling the carb.. oh well.. at least now I have an excuse and the opportunity to get rid of the rats nest and ACV..

bliffle

Please keep us informed about this. It's alarming that the carb went out so fast (if that's the answer). I remember the words of the best mechanic I've known: "it requires 3 things for the engine to run: gas, compression and ignition, and most problems are ignition".

B

White84SE

It's got me just as baffled... I know that when these things flood, it can really cut down the compression.. but the car was working semi-perfectly until I swapped the worn out starter and old battery cables.. another side note I think might be related to this... when I was driving, if I would coast in gear, then throw it in neutral, as if coming to a stoplight, the car would stall out. Could easily be caught in gear, but would stall out. However, if I continued to give it gas and immediately pop it into neutral, it would come down to a slightly fluctuating idle. I dunno.. the car only has 70k-ish miles on it, so I know it's spent a lot of time sitting. Carb rebuild wouldn't hurt and I enjoy getting my hands dirty.. preventative maintenance, I guess.. LOL

--Danny

JDuncan

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Have you tried MMO or ATF yet? If starter fluid got you some play, then you really should. Just shoot some straight down the primaries on the carb while a friend cranks it for you. Don't go overboard, and be prepared for smoke.

cletus

My favorite method was always a capful of ATF in each primary barrel of the carb. That or a nice hill and a push (or a combination there of).

SilverRocket

You sure you don't have a vacuum leak? Check the big hose on the back of the carb near the firewall, passenger side, goes to the intake manifold. If there's so much as a little crack in that one, your car will be very hard to start, won't idle, and will run like crap.

I'd do a full check-over of those vacuum lines if I were you, before pulling the carb.

sweetege

I was just wondering where exactaly is the fuse if there is one in a 84 se cause the only one i found running a different direction is the heater/AC (that was so stupid aaaarrrrrrgggg) anyway is there one on mine?

White84SE

Alreight.. still fighting this little bastard... trying swapping carbs off of one of my running part ******. Anyway, I've almost got it back together with the different carb, but I've hit a snag. The cable coming out of the little choke box in the engine bay, does it go to the top part of the carb, or the bottom? Right now it's on the top, but I'm about 80% sure I've got it backwards.. anyone?

Rx7carl

HUH? you mean the hot start assist POS on the strut tower? Take that thing off and throw it as far as you can!!!!!!!!!!! Its freakin useless.

White84SE

Uh... yea... that's what I meant... LOL Dammit.. I knew I hooked it up wrong... is there an easier way to unhook the lower cables than taking the whole carb off?

RotorMotorDriver

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You can kinda get to them from the passenger side after taking off the anti-afterburn valve then reaching in between the back of the carb and the firewall. At least, on my car I can do it .

~T.J.

White84SE

You got little hands, don't ya TJ? LOL Aw hell, might as well just take it off again.. it'll give me something to do tomorrow afternoon...