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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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200+ hp on se ?

im coming home from i raq at the end of the yr and im rebuilding my eng and while its apart ,im doing an extend street port i got a full rb exhust, and k&n airfilter ,l/w flywheel ,cluch all that good stuff now would it be posable to get my eng up over the 200 mark w/o going turbo. sometime in the future i will but not now i want to achive 220 rwhp is this posable
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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a good carb and exhaust is enough to get you to 175 w/o a problem..
so yes, definately
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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SE's are fuel injected. It's possible but you'll need bigger injectors and some other electronics. Maybe a stand alone is in order. I suppose you could go the carb route if you got a 6 port intake and a Weber or Dell'orto carb.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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220rwhp[265hp at the flywheel] would require a big port, higher rated injectors, better fuel pump and an ecu upgrade, plus you should go for a light steel flywheel and high pressure clutch.

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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i had my last gsl-se with stock port and stock but modified EGI to an estimated 180 FWHP, i was able to beat a few cars that were running 14.8-14.7 1/4's

personally i would stay with the EGI for the gas mileage because the EGI can be made as fast as a weber DCO carb given you rip it to the basics and put a good flowing exhaust on

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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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oh yes paul i love it over here i have to deal with 1st coscom GO LEANING ***** HOUSE !!!lol!! i have the light weight fly wheeli was thinkin about going wit han sds due to the fact ofr easy tuning or a megasquirt i dont know yet i reall dont like other ppl that i dont know touching my car unless they come highly recamneded :spelling: im thinking about a half bridge over port 5 and 6 if its more realiable than a normal one i wanna remove the maf whatever u call it.i was thinking if i go megasquirt im thinking of gettin a cutom job like david lane and add 2 more injectors

oh and sorry about the grammar im 2 rotor heads in one i work on helicopters too so i dont have the best grammar in the world !!!
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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is there anyone out there that has done this or got pretty damn close to this in hp anymore help would be awesome thanks guys
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Mine makes 167 at the flywheel at 5280 feet, dyno tested, no estimates. It should be about 210-220 flywheel at sea level.

There are plenty of ways to get there, but there are trade-offs to anything. I wanted my car to still be sedate and driveable at 2500 rpm but happy to rev up to 8000 and it is for the most part.

I went for the more stock route by using the engine from a 91 6-port as a starting point. The intake is stock S5. The engine is street ported but still a 6-port but without the actuators. The spark is distributor controlled and the fuel is Haltech F10. The exhaust is racing beat header to bonez cat to racing beat muffler.

If I were you, I'd consider the high compression rotors from the S5 as a must if you're goint to stay NA. The S5 intake is superior to previous generations with the variable length tuned runners.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregs
i had my last gsl-se with stock port and stock but modified EGI to an estimated 180 FWHP, i was able to beat a few cars that were running 14.8-14.7 1/4's...
i hope you mean flywheel HP not front wheel HP. i'd have to beat you.

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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by purple82
Mine makes 167 at the flywheel at 5280 feet,
Sorry that should be 167 at the rear wheels.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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im tryin to keep it lookin as much like it did when it came off the floor but i want more power i would love to make fast as hell w/o turbo i was also thinking about millin my rotors down to make em light weight i got lots of differnt idea's but it would take so long to write it all down on here
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B4port
i hope you mean flywheel HP not front wheel HP. i'd have to beat you.

are rx-7's front wheel drive?
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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are rx-7's front wheel drive?
they are rear wheel i hope that u are joking i thought that u were talk fly wheel hp and not front wheel but i can be mistaken
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Blow and streetport!
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rd and final 7
they are rear wheel i hope that u are joking i thought that u were talk fly wheel hp and not front wheel but i can be mistaken
lol, of course i was joking
fwhp= flywheel horse power
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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84stock my plan is no forced induction im one of those type of ppl i guess like i said b4 maybe later but i love a challenge

i was looking in hayes rotary web site and im thinking about doing super light weight rotors has anyone done this b4
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Light weight rotors don't necessarily mean more horsepower. If you're looking for faster revs, the easiest thing to do is to use a lighter flywheel.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by purple82
Light weight rotors don't necessarily mean more horsepower. If you're looking for faster revs, the easiest thing to do is to use a lighter flywheel.
i got the lightweight flywheel already i was under the impression that if the engine is spining less weight ie pump and **** like the ac or ps it would free up a lil hp how would this be any different if it internal or external dont get me wrong im not saying that u dont know what ur talkin about but im just cerious is all bc any and all help is much needed and wisdom is well noted
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Friction and momentum are two different things.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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so if i had them milled down alil it wouldnt though would it
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Originally Posted by Gregs
personally i would stay with the EGI for the gas mileage because the EGI can be made as fast as a weber DCO carb given you rip it to the basics and put a good flowing exhaust on
as much as i rarely sing the praises of the EFI system on the SE, this is a point that i firmly believe and feel many people tend not to see when they streetport and SE.

from what i've read, you should be able to achieve 215 HP on a streetport with the stock fuel system in place.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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as much as i rarely sing the praises of the EFI system on the SE, this is a point that i firmly believe and feel many people tend not to see when they streetport and SE.

from what i've read, you should be able to achieve 215 HP on a streetport with the stock fuel system in place.

forgive im alil slow comprehending things sometimes u are saying 215 to the rear w/o changin anything about my EFI i was thinking about gettin polished though but other than that i should be good right

and i was also wondering if anyone knew who or where i can get a radical port for my 6port and if posable a bridge port for my aux ports and what are the big down falls of this
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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sorry, should have been more specific. 215 at the flywheel is what i understood from the thread that i read about it. it's here on the board somewhere and i think it was Directfreak that mentioned the car that did this, may have been his or someone else's. i don't have the time right this minute to look for you, but if you don't find it, then i'll try later or over the weekend to find it for you and link it here.

i also remember reading a thread in which Rx-7Carl was working on TB flow for the SE. you may want to contact Carl when you get close to completion of your build-up.

my opinion, and that's all this is so get your grain of salt, just get a decent streetport. i don't care how many people say that bridgeys are streetable and that they are happy with them on the street, i have never seen, heard or driven one in 18 years of driving Rx-7s that i can honestly say that i'd want to live with everyday. they are too obnoxious and when you tame them, then you're not running them at their optimal tune. besides, i wouldn't bridge a 6-port anyway.

maybe i'm just too old now.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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so if i had them milled down alil it wouldnt though would it
Lightening the rotors won't make any more power, but it would rev faster. The rotors from a 89-91 engine are higher compression and WILL get you more power.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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diabolical1:

215 to the fly is what i can produce out of the stock injection system upgrade the injector and fuel pump like said b4 in the thread by a member (sorry this is the second time having to wtie this i dont remember your name but thank you)

id really like to know what Carl planing on the TB i l give it a search tonight and see what i can pull up

i wasnt really sure about the bridge it was a thought and i dont know i dont wanna compermise the interrety of the water jackets at all i think that im going to go with a good street port on her i was also thinking about the pineapple inserts for the aux but was thinkin about having a set milled like them instead or BUCK the inserts that are inside kinda like a rivit type

thanks

purple82 thats cool i think that im going to stick with what i got then and im going to remove emisions sense my car is resistered fl pull the PS maybe the clutch fan and the a/c maybe i didnt have a/c or p/s on my first 7 its really not that big of a deal so i might just go with that thanks man
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